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Posted on 01/02/2011 5:46:30 PM PST by Paragon Defender
T: How would you know?
I read the Bible
Oh PLEASE! You ignore the major message of the bible, add to it with your phoney-baloney scriptures, declare that it is not translated correctly, refuse to discuss what parts may actually be in doubt, yet trot it out to argue with Christians.
In my opinion, you spit on the bible.
While you're on a roll, why not tell me what Joseph Smith found to be false about Presbyterianism? Oh, and see my tagline? That has stood for days and not one peep.
Tell me DU, what did the bible leave out that is a necessary truth for me to be with Jesus in heaven for eternity?
It is ‘duplicity’, and we see it with delph, as he opines, flipping and flopping, first claiming he was told by God that the Bible is true, the next post telling us he could point out the errors int he Bible for us if he chose to. What is that passage from the Bible, about a ‘double-minded man’ being unstable in all things? ... I think it’s in Proverbs ... The odd thing about Mormonism apologists’ ‘unstableness’ as it manifests in spinning daily, they think they’re dancing before the Lord.
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Actually, the quote I was reaching for is James 1:8, but I think James was paraphrasing a passage from Proverbs.
When I was a Child going to te Kingdom Hall with the witnesses I never ever heard them deny the deity of Christ..I have friends now who are Jehovah Witnesses and they have never told me they deny the deity of Christ...
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What I claim is that I believe that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of the Living GOD, that he died for my sins and rose from the grave and sists at the right hand of the Father...
I believe that Jesus Christ is the Saviour of the world and that the 2 most important commandments from the Christ is:
1. To Love GOD with all your heart, mind and soul
2. To Love your neighbor as yourself.
Now I ask you, is there any *religious doctrine* more important than that confession???????????
Are you being good enough to go to heaven Tara? If you were to grade yourself on the “goodness” scale (using your two standards, loving God and loving your neighbor), maybe a B+ or an A-? You seem to be very sincere and kind.
Shock and Awe!
What the Scripture (the bible) says He will be- “And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace” (Isa. 9:6). Jer.23:5-6: “.. I will raise to David a branch of righteousness; ... His name by which He will be called THE LORD (Yahweh) OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.” Isa.63:8 God speaking, “so He became their Savior.”
What did Jesus say of himself-John 8:23 And He said to them, “You are from beneath; I AM from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.” “Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM”( John 8:58). Jn.5:18, “He said God was his Father, making himself equal with God. “And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” John 20:28. John 10:14-16: “I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep”, David said in Ps.23 The Lord (God/ Yahweh) is my shepherd. Later in jn.10 Jesus states of His sheep “they follow Me and I give them eternal life.”
What did the disciples teach that he said- ”and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us. John 1:2-3 He was in the beginning with God 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.”
*This is the CHRIST*
out of respect for thier families they still attend a Mosqu’e or a Jewish or Mormon Temple?
Do you think Jesus cares more about religious doctrine or more about the Gospel Message and what is in the heart of MAN??????
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Gollies
Lets ask Jesus shall we ???
Yes we shall...
and the answer is...
“TaraP, hoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in Heaven. And whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in Heaven.
Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
For I have come to turn “’a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; (The LORD Jesus Christ, Matthew 10:32-37)
They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.” (The LORD Jesus Christ, Luke 12:53)
For a son dishonors his father, a daughter rises up against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—a man’s enemies are the members of his own household. Micah 7:6
WOW
Now look at that
Jesus quoted from the Old Testament...
How did He do that if the words were missing ???
I am never good enough on my own to be in the presence of the Creator, but I am worthy by the Blood of the Lamb......
I follow the Jesus of the Holy Bible, not of a cult or some New age hocus pocus....
I am just saying many people come from different cultures and background and they can find the Jesus of the Holy Bible no matter where they have come from.
” I had no idea that the Church of Latter Day Saints actually claimed that Joseph Smith was ever an Apostle...
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“The term apostle is derived from the New Testament Greek word... apostolos, meaning one who is sent forth as a messenger “
-from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostle_%28Christian%29
The word “apostle” has never been solely restricted to the Twelve Apostles of Jesus Christ.
Another church that calls its leaders “apostles” is the New Apostolic Church.
See - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Apostolic_Church
LDS Church leaders have always been called “apostles.”
- from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_Quorum_of_the_Twelve_Apostles_%28LDS_Church%29
The Roman Catholic Church also uses the term for many people:
(Also from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostle_%28Christian%29 )
“A number of successful pioneering missionaries are known as Apostles. In this sense, in the traditional list below, the apostle either first brought Christianity to a land or a people, or spread the faith in places where a few struggling Christian communities did already exist.
* Apostle to the Abyssinians: Saint Frumentius
* Apostle to the Caucasian Albania: Saint Yelisey
* Apostle of the Alleghanies: Demetrius Augustine Gallitzin, 1770–1840
* Apostle of Andalusia: Juan de Avila, 1500–1569
* Apostle of the Ardennes: Saint Hubertus, 656–727
* Apostle to the Armenians: Saint Gregory the Illuminator, 256–331
* Apostle to Berkshire: Thomas Russell
* Apostle to Brazil: José de Anchieta, 1533–1597
* Apostle to Carantania: Saint Vergilius of Salzburg, Bishop, (745–84)
* Apostle to the English: Saint Augustine of Canterbury, died 604
* Apostle of the Eucharist: Saint Peter Julian Eymard
* Apostle to the Franks: Saint Remigius, c. 437–533
* Apostle to the Frisians: Saint Willibrord, 657–738
* Apostle of Gaul: Saint Irenaeus, 130–200
* Apostle of Gaul: Saint Denis (3rd century)
* Apostle of Gaul: Saint Martin of Tours, 338–401
* Apostle to the Gauls: Saint Saturninus, died c. 257
* Apostle to the Georgians: Saint Nino, 320s
* Apostle to the Gentiles: Saint Paul
* Apostle to the Germans: Saint Boniface, 680–755
* Apostle of Holstein: Saint Vicelinus, 1086–1154
* Apostle to Hungary: Saint Anastasius, 954–1044
* Apostle to India: Saint Thomas
* Apostle to India: Saint Francis Xavier; 1506–1552
* Apostle to the “Indians” (Amerindians): John Eliot, 1604–1690
* Apostle to the Indies (West): Bartolomé de las Casas, 1474–1566
* Apostle to the Indies (East): Saint Francis Xavier, 1506–1552
* Apostle to Ireland: Saint Patrick, 373–463
* Apostle to the Iroquois, Francois Piquet, 1708–1781
* Apostle of Mercy: Saint Faustina Kowalska, 1905–1938
* Apostle to Noricum: Saint Severinus
* Apostle to the North: Saint Ansgar, 801–864
* Apostle to the Parthians: Saint Thomas
* Apostle of the Permians: Saint Stephen of Perm, 1340–1396
* Apostle of Peru: Alonzo de Barcena, 1528–1598
* Apostle to the Picts: Saint Ninian, 5th century
* Apostle to the Polish: Saint Adalbert
* Apostle to the Pomeranians: Saint Otto, 1060–1139
* Apostle to the Scots: Saint Columba, 521–597
* Apostles to the Slavs: Saints Cyril and Methodius, c 820–869
* Apostle of Spains: Saint James the Greater (d. 44)
* Apostle of the Wends: Saint Evermode, d.1178
Analogous use for non-Catholic missionaries:
* Apostle to the Americas: Saint Innocent, 1797–1879
* Apostle to the Cherokees: Cephas Washburn
* Apostle to China: Hudson Taylor
* Apostle to the Goths: Bishop Ulfilas (Arian)”
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Perhaps Jim, because you were shocked, as you say, you may have acted just a tiny bit precipitously.
That is understandable; it’s only human. I myself have on occasion felt like removing a thread that I felt was inappropriate.
But ordinary Freepers don’t have the power to do that.
The bottom line is that a caucus label cannot be used as cover to fire pot shots at the beliefs of others whether by title or content of the article or by the discussion on the thread.
In the earlier sidebar, I used the example of a Buddhist caucus posting an article titled "Jesus should have packed heat." That title would be inflammatory enough that the caucus protection would be removed.
IMHO- It just appears to me, that there is alot of *Judging* by other’s here on who is a Christian, and who is *Saved* JESUS CONDEMNS THIS KIND OF JUDGEMENT...
JOHN 7:24
Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment.”
2JOHN 1:7
For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.
Matthew 7:1
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.
Zechariah 7:9 “This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another.
John 7:25 At that point some of the people of Jerusalem began to ask, “Isn’t this the man they are trying to kill?
John 8:15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one.
2 Corinthians 10:7 You are looking only on the surface of things. If anyone is confident that he belongs to Christ, he should consider again that we belong to Christ just as much as he.
James 2:4 have you not discriminated among yourselves and become
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