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To: mlizzy

“To reject the teaching of Peter and his successors the Roman pontiffs, together with the bishops who are united with the Holy Father in teaching the one faith which has been handed down faithfully from the apostles, is to reject the teaching of Jesus Christ, and the One who sent him, the Father...”

Um...no. If Jesus, in Matt 16:16, was trying to teach that he wanted Peter to be his Vicar, and for Peter’s successors in Rome to be Vicar after him, then Jesus sure did a bad job of saying so.

This leads to the conclusion that either God is stupid, or Jesus wasn’t saying what you claim he was saying. I choose door number 2.

I would also dispute that many teachings of the Catholic Church were handed down faithfully from the Apostles, since the Apostles seemed ignorant of transubstantiation, Purgatory, indulgences, Mary_wife of God, etc.


4 posted on 01/01/2011 4:08:32 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: narses

Ping.


5 posted on 01/01/2011 4:22:11 PM PST by jafojeffsurf ( Return to the Constitution.)
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To: Mr Rogers
This leads to the conclusion that either God is stupid, or Jesus wasn’t saying what you claim he was saying. I choose door number 2.
The saint wannabes like Fr. Corapi, speak the Truth as they know it, and more importantly, as *they* -- the canonized saints! -- knew it.
6 posted on 01/01/2011 4:33:01 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Mr Rogers

Mr. Rogers, I think you’re great, and I respect that we do not agree here. I agree with mlizzy and others. Father Corapi knocks it outta the park. Remember Matthew 28:20. Better yet, if I may be so bold, I am including a link to an older article, perhaps appropriate, and certainly more eloquent than I.
http://www.drbo.org/church2.htm

Either way, like I said, I do respect you, and, were we neighbors, I’d still invite you for barbecues. ;)
ps - Mary? Not “wife of God” The way we Catholics phrase it (and I must hurry, gluten free pizza is cooling here) is Mother of God.


9 posted on 01/01/2011 5:20:17 PM PST by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: Mr Rogers

I agree with Mr. Rogers, in my years of been saved over 57 years, and studying, searching and memorizing the Holy Scriptures; I find none of those given in Gods word or instruction.(I mean Purgatory,Transubstaniation,indugances, the deifying of Mary, etc.) In fact I have found the teach the opposite.

What I have found is God is no respector of persons, with men these things are impossible, but with God all things are possible.

‘To as many as receive Him to them gave He the power to become the sons of God.”

Jesus came not into the world to condemn the world, but that the world may be saved through His Son Jesus Christ.

The Lord Jesus came to seek and to save that which is lost!

“But God commended his love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”

“God has hid these things from the wise and prudent, but has shown it unto babes.”

Jesus said: “Come unto Me, all ye that labor and are heavy,and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you, and learn of Me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy, and My burden is light,” Matthew 11:28-30)


12 posted on 01/01/2011 6:34:58 PM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: Mr Rogers

I think not only the Apostles were ignorant of “Mary_wife of God”, but i am as well. Please explain who teaches this. I share your distaste for ignorance, let’s try to stamp it out together!!


21 posted on 01/01/2011 9:20:59 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism (( the truth will set you free ))
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