Posted on 12/31/2010 4:12:00 PM PST by Colofornian
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"...a discourse delivered by Joseph Smith July 19-1840....
"...When the seed of these 12 Olive trees are scattered abroad they will wake up the Nations of the whole Earth. Even this Nation will be on the very verge of crumbling to pieces and tumbling to the ground and when the constitution is upon the brink of ruin this people will be the Staff up[on] which the Nation shall lean and they shall bear the constitution away from the very verge of destruction." (The Historians Corner, BYU Studies, Vol. 19, No. 3, p. 391-392)
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In the book, Discourses of Brigham Young...we read:
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When the Constitution of the United States hangs, as it were, upon a single thread, they will have to call for the "Mormon" Elders to save it from utter destruction; and they will step forth and do it. 2:182.
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Will the Constitution be destroyed? No; it will be held inviolate by this people; and, as Joseph Smith said, "The time will come when the destiny of the nation will hang upon a single thread...7:15. (Discourses of Brigham Young, pp. 360-361 and p. 469)
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Joseph F. Smith, sixth president of the LDS Church, wrote in Gospel Doctrine, p. 403:
...Joseph Smith...predicted that the time would come, when the Constitution of our country would hang as it were by a thread, and that the Latter-day Saints, above all other people in the world, would come to the rescue ...
In the book Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 618-619 we read:
The Lord told the Prophet Joseph Smith there would be an attempt to overthrow the country by destroying the Constitution. Joseph Smith predicted that the time would come when the Constitution would hang, as it were, by a thread...
(Excerpt) Read more at utlm.org ...
You are two centuries behind
Gal 1:11
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Another gospel was being taught in Paul life time RB and you are trying to say after Paul the same faction did not change it again under the pagan Constantine political clergy in 325 AD?
History tells us that Constantine had a death bed baptism, who know if he was conscious?
All through the development of the Nicene creed Constantine hands were not clean because he never repented!
Constantine was a ruthless murdering tyrant!
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What are you going to do with this with the restoration Angel in Rev 14;6 RB?
Rev 14;6
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
It is sad to read this maligning from an intelligent man like you RB who really does not know the parables of the scriptures which takes dedication much prayer and pondering which is where the spirit of the Lord comes in when one ask the Lord in prayer to clarify.
You can always be depended upon to fully support the heresies at the heart of Motmonism. Appreciate your little effort, resty.
(Boy...have ya ever seem to notice all those deconstruction campaigns seem to get jumpstarted on college campuses!)
That is bunk there is no proof what was said because it is a 3rd party hearsay!
but amuse youself if you must!
BTW a nation is save by the people being united not just one faith doing it thing as you would like to imply!
I am a strong believer in the Lord’s commandments which are for all of God children and those who Keep His commandments will be the ones who help save this nation.
Playing: Anti-Mormon Straw Man Arguments / Ad-...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=923UR_-pHsc&feature=player_embedded
Ping ... this is NOT a non-issue. This different definition of God, the god of Mormonism is central to the non-Christian nature of Mormonism.
Interesting side note... I believe it is you that has the incorrect “definition” of God as you put it. Yet I still consider you part of the Christian family.
So do I!
I can imagine the scene now. PD has a 14 yo son. He comes home one day and says, “Dad, my friend, Joey says these nameless beings appeared to him & told him all those Christians are ‘corrupt’ & all their creeds are putrid & they’re all wrong & we all need to move to Ohio & then to Missouri & then to Illinois & then to Utah. And he only wants 10% of your income & only 11 of his followers will actually need to give him their wives.”
Way to demonstrate and illustrate your total misunderstanding of how the Holy Ghost and personal revelation works (and your continual obsession of spouting anti-Mormon propaganda).
Yes, we know you support the blasphemies of your founder and subsequent leadership. We realize you believe god was once a man and had to gain/earn the attributes of godhood. We realize that as a devout Mormon you believe the god of Earth was appointed by a council of gods. And we are aware that as a Mormonism adherent you believe jesus was sired by the union of the Mormon god and his goddess wife and is the brother of satan in Mormonism. We realize all of that, PD, that’s why we’re so persistent in refuting the blasphemies at the heart of Mormonism ... your immortal destiny and that of any Mormon following such blasphemous teachings is at stake. I will address your faux melchisedek priesthood soon. Stay tuned
Resty, yo poor thing, Christians are made one with Jesus by the Holy Spirit. Having the Holy Spirit in your human spirit is what you seem to be stumbling over. What do you do with John Chapter One, ‘The Word was with God and Was God in the beginning’ ... instead of taking the Bible as authority, you insist upon the traditions of men (the BofM, changed so many times and full of foolish copying errors when trying to lift whole passages from the Old Testament/Tanakh), teaching polytheism as in a copy of anceint Greek and Roman pantheons of gods and goddesses, siring and siring again, and amking brothers of Jesus and satan! ... And you wonder why we persist in pointing out the blasphemies in Mormonism?
That’s quite the lengthy dissertation. But what do you mean? /S
Surely you don’t mean that God has always existed and therefore could never have a father as we do in the physical and earthly realm.
further it seems you are beginning the argument that God, the Holy Spirit and Jesus are one and same, part and parcel?
I still want my own planet poulated with only the most beautiful women of “My” creation.
I just have to figure out this worthy and well qualified thing.
It sounds like a Masonic rite but what do I know? Keith 187 Texas Lodge, Gilroy.
I could have made this post funny but I’m on my cell and typing on these tiny keys is brutal. The keyboard must have been made for Barbie or G.I. Joe
It sure IS addressed!
And proven to be CORRECT!
Just go look for yourselves; Lurkers!
There you go aGAIN; Resty!
Using verses non-approved by Headquarters as being TRUE.
Thanks for the ping, dear MHGinTN!
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