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To: CynicalBear; BenKenobi
Proof for your statements, please? You do realise that we reject Pelagianism, Semi-Pelagianism, right?

you do know that Pelagianism means "mortal will is still capable of choosing good or evil without special Divine aid. " while Semipelagian thought teaches that the latter half - growing in faith - is the work of God, while the beginning of faith is an act of free will, with grace supervening only later

It too was labeled heresy by the Western Church in the Second Council of Orange in 529. The Church teaches taht the initiative comes from God.

Mary did not save herself in any way -- we believe that all of what she did or was was due to God's grace. All Mary did was say 'yes'. The grace was freely given by God, the protectino by God, everything by God, Her Son and Savior.
249 posted on 12/31/2010 3:13:11 AM PST by Cronos (Kto jestem? Nie wiem! Ale moj Bog wie!)
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To: Cronos

“Mary did not save herself in any way — we believe that all of what she did or was was due to God’s grace. All Mary did was say ‘yes’. The grace was freely given by God, the protectino by God, everything by God, Her Son and Savior.”

Agreed, and thank you. I hope I’ve stated it correctly so far.


265 posted on 12/31/2010 4:22:51 AM PST by BenKenobi (Rush speaks! I hear, I obey)
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