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To: aMorePerfectUnion

First of all, I don’t believe any of the so called “mormon God” characteristics you posted. I have never been taught those things either, so I can’t debate you on any of those issues. I believe the same things that you describe in the bible. We believe in the King James Version of the bible too.

To me, you are using the “When did you stop beating your wife” to introduce those concepts and so I will not go any further in debating the negative.

I can tell you this as a convert to the LDS church, it is the only church that I investigated that could answer the following questions:

Where did I come from, Why am I here and where am I going.

I also liked the organization of the church and lack of politics and money. Only the Bishop and his counselors know who is a full tithe payer and who is not. No money ever exchanges hands during sacrament meetings.

There are no paid ministers, teachers or musicians but members, regardless of how much money they have or give, are called to positions based on righteousness. You might have an Iron worker as a bishop and a Doctor or lawyer as a librarian or caring for babies in the nursery.

The last church I attended gave positions based on the amount of money they gave the church, so only “rich” people were called to pass the sacrament or take up the collections.

I have not run into any part of the Mormon Doctrine that I don’t agree with nor have I run into the doctrine that you described as the “mormon Jesus.”


27 posted on 12/28/2010 7:04:23 PM PST by ODDITHER
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To: ODDITHER; colorcountry; greyfoxx39; reaganaut

ODDITHER,

If you do not know that your church, the LDS church, teaches that Jesus Christ was a spirit child, who became a man with a body, who worked his way to godhood - along the way marrying and being sealed to a wife - than you either just walked in the door or you don’t want to know what your church teaches. It is not hidden.

“I can tell you this as a convert to the LDS church, it is the only church that I investigated that could answer the following questions:

Where did I come from, Why am I here and where am I going.I can tell you this as a convert to the LDS church, it is the only church that I investigated that could answer the following questions: Where did I come from, Why am I here and where am I going.”

Every church that uses a Bible should be able to answer that question. Unfortunately, in the case of LDS, the answers they give are not Biblical, since they start with being created as a spirit who comes to earth.

“There are no paid ministers, teachers or musicians but members, regardless of how much money they have or give, are called to positions based on righteousness.”

No paid staff. Just people in pursuit of worthiness in order to get a temple recommend, get into the highest level of mormon heaven and become a mormon god. Surely you’ve been there long enough to know that.

“The last church I attended gave positions based on the amount of money they gave the church, so only “rich” people were called to pass the sacrament or take up the collections.”

That was also wrong.

“I have not run into any part of the Mormon Doctrine that I don’t agree with nor have I run into the doctrine that you described as the “mormon Jesus.””

I suggest you begin to ask some serious questions friend.

AMPU

cc: pinging three former mormons to clarify whether I wrote all that accurately from a mormon theological perspective. If not, please correct me. Thanks!


30 posted on 12/28/2010 7:44:48 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ODDITHER; SENTINEL; SZonian; Colofornian; colorcountry; aMorePerfectUnion; greyfoxx39; ...

First of all, I don’t believe any of the so called “mormon God” characteristics you posted. I have never been taught those things either, so I can’t debate you on any of those issues.

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Then you apparently aren’t paying attention. I was taught those when I was LDS, and I am sure others who have been LDS on here will say the same.

And the old “the LDS church is the only one that answers those questions” reeks of brainwashing. NEWSFLASH - all other Christian churches can answer the same questions, only better and biblically.


31 posted on 12/28/2010 7:56:49 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: ODDITHER; aMorePerfectUnion; greyfoxx39; Colofornian; Elsie

Would you like quotes from your leaders and/or scriptures and/or official church manuals that teach the doctrines that AMPU listed?

We would be more than happy to provide them so you can look them up yourself and see what we are saying is true.


34 posted on 12/28/2010 8:01:19 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: ODDITHER
"Where did I come from, Why am I here and where am I going."

ODDITHER, please don't take things personally. You need to know, and will not be told, THAT EVERY SINGLE ASPECT, EVERY SINGLE DETAIL of the lds "Plan of Salvation" to which you refer was ripped off by Joseph Smith from a man named Emmanuel Swedenborg. He lived from 1688-1772, wrote many books, claimed to have visited face to face with God and had many followers, even to this day. Read "A Treatise on Heaven and Hell" for starters. historical library records from Palmyra New York even show repeated checkouts of this book to Joe Smith Jr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Church

36 posted on 12/28/2010 8:13:17 PM PST by SENTINEL (Mormonism...from Ezra Taft Benson to Reid and Romney in only one generation.)
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To: ODDITHER
I also liked the organization of the church and lack of politics and money.

ROFLOL!!! Now that is about the funniest thing I've read today!!

You are kidding right!!!???

Wow!!

43 posted on 12/29/2010 7:09:05 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: ODDITHER
I have not run into any part of the Mormon Doctrine that I don’t agree with

Really???

44 posted on 12/29/2010 7:10:34 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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