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To: marshmallow

I did not “bail” on you. Your bizarre and wrongheaded remarks just don’t get in the way of work.

The short answer is, in toto, no.

But, that is only because you did not read my first answer. We, the believers in Christ alone, do not in any way support, endorse, agree with or recognize the vile Mariolotry promoted by Rome or Luther or Calvin or anyone else. Men are errant. Certainly Rome is. God delivered His word to clearly set out that “there are none righteous, not even one” other than His Son.

It is interesting that you are beginning to read Luther and Calvin and Zwingli, however. Perhaps some of their more biblical comments will get traction...perhaps not.


146 posted on 12/17/2010 1:52:29 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
OK, so help me out here.

The Catholic Church has it wrong about Mary. So too, did Luther, Calvin and Zwingli, apparently. At least as they're quoted here. Have I got that right?

So answer me the following questions.

1) When did "the reformers" (I use the term loosely to mean anyone from the 16th century onwards) start to get it right about Mary and who was the person who "saw the light", if not the three individuals (Luther et al.,) here mentioned?

2) How do we know that you........or anyone for that matter, is right about Mary whereas Luther et al., were wrong?

Bear in mind that you've already told me that "men are errant". That presumably includes you, too.

It's most amusing seeing you pour cold water on Luther but really, you have no alternative, do you? Faced with the glaring inconsistency between your own position and the words of the reformers, you can either admit that modern day Protestantism has completely wandered off the reservation with regard to Marian theology, or you can stubbornly maintain your own position and insist that Luther had it wrong.

Of course, if one goes with the latter, the obvious question which might pop into one's mind is "what else was he wrong about?" but that's for you to wrestle with.

172 posted on 12/17/2010 2:32:57 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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