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To: maryz; Iscool
yes! I have great fun repeating to my Polish friends how Polish is actually simpler than English in pronounciation -- how it's spelt is ALWAYS how it is pronounced.

While in English you have
BOUGH

TOUGH

COUGH
All pronounced differently! And then why does mass have two 's" and Christmas only one? Ditto for full and joyful?

;-P

Oh and talking about plurals -- polish is insane in that respect (as in many!) -- in English, noun plurals are simple -- mostly "s". In Polish, not so simple.

For neuter, always "a" except for dziecko (child) = dzieci, ucho = uczy, oko = oczy (ear and eye resp.)

In Feminine and Masuline non-personal it is "e" for soft stems (hotel = hotele, ulica = ulice), y for hard consonants (dziewczieny,kobiety)

for Masculine personal, it goes crazy.

Polak = Polacy
Niemiec (German)=Niemcy
Pan = Panowie (Mr.)
Lekarz = Lekarze (doctor)
Okulist = okuliści
Student = studenci

it's crazy i tell you!
707 posted on 12/18/2010 2:10:11 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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To: All
Does anyone know any of these languages?

From the Semitic: Hebrew, Arabic, AramaicFrom the Aryan-Slavic: Russian, Bulgarian, Polish, etc

From the Germanic: German, Frisian, Danish,etc?

I know the Slavic languages have genitive, but how do other languages use the genitive?

Since they're probably called something else in each language -- in Polish it's dopełniacz, so here's the English description
Genitive

In grammar, genitive (abbreviated gen; also called the possessive case or second case) is the grammatical case that marks a noun as modifying another noun. It often marks a noun as being the possessor of another noun but it can also indicate various relationships other than possession; certain verbs may take arguments in the genitive case; and it may have adverbial uses (see Adverbial genitive). Modern English does not typically mark nouns for a genitive case morphologically – rather, it uses the 's clitic or a preposition (usually of) – but the personal pronouns do have distinct possessive forms. In many Afroasiatic languages the construct state is used to express similar relations between nouns.

Depending on the language, specific varieties of genitive-noun–main-noun relationships may include:

Depending on the language, specific varieties of genitive-noun–main-noun relationships may include:

Depending on the language, some of the relationships mentioned above have their own distinct cases different from the genitive.

Possessive pronouns are distinct pronouns, found in Indo-European languages such as English, that function like pronouns inflected in the genitive. They are considered separate pronouns if contrasting to languages where pronouns are regularly inflected in the genitive. For example, English my is either a separate possessive adjective or an irregular genitive of I, while in Finnish, for example, minun is regularly agglutinated from minu- "I" and -n (genitive).

In some languages, nouns in the genitive case also agree in case with the nouns they modify (that is, it is marked for two cases). This phenomenon is called suffixaufnahme.

In some languages, nouns in the genitive case may be found in inclusio – that is, between the main noun’s article and the noun itself.

Many languages have a genitive case, including Albanian, Arabic, Armenian, Basque, Czech, Slovak, Estonian, Finnish, Gaelic, Georgian, German, Greek, Icelandic, Irish, Latin, Latvian, Polish, Romanian, Russian, Sanskrit, Bosnian, Serbian, Croatian, Slovene, Turkish and Ukrainian. English does not have a proper genitive case, but a possessive ending, -’s (see below), although pronouns do have a genitive case.


715 posted on 12/18/2010 7:29:21 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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