Did fellow Mormons cover up officer's baby molestations?

Idaho Statesman ^ | Dec. 12, 2010 | Patrick Orr

[Tennessee Nana]

Oh and please post again what Joey Smith found to be untrue about Presbyterianism...

Whats that ???

Youve never posted that...

Oh well never mind the never mind...

Please post it ...

The lurkers and the Flying Inmans would like to read it...

[Elsie]

 

 

 

 

                       Standard LDS responses to data put to them:

 

 1. How you interpret it is wrong...
 2. You are too ignorant to really understand it because you are not a member....
 3. You're not qualified to judge because you're no LONGER a member...
 4. You are just a bigot for bringing the whole ugly truth to light ...
 5. So's yer Mama!
 6. Laugh it all off and post some silly image.
 7. Jump down the rabbit hole; Alice!
 8. Bait & Switch
 9. The OTHER 'half' of the truth is what we are avoiding.
10. "I Know It When I See It"
11. Hand waving...
12. YOU play defense for a while.
13. HEE Hee hee... let's get the Calvinists and the Armenians fighting!
14. GREAT FUN! Let's get the Catholics and the Protestants fighting!
15. Huh? Did you say something?
16. If I repeat this enough times some folks will be fooled into thinking it's true.
17. Playing dumb.
18. Refusing to answer because your ATTITUDE offends them.
19. (Let's see if they'll fall for the 'Defend a freak' ploy.)
20. And the MOST used... IGNORE what they posted and answer the question that SHOULD have been asked.

[Elsie]

Those who do believe in Jesus Christ but never were baptized nor strive to keep the Commandments of the Lord.

Like a Jack Mormon?

[Elsie]

You have been given the source many times and still it reveals you have no clue what to do with it!

Now we gots PD on her keyboard!!

[Elsie]

You have been given the source many times and still it reveals you have no clue what to do with it!

Thr TRUTH of Christianity has been shown to YOU many times; but you REFUSE to cling to it; CHOOSING rather the heresy of MORMONism.

[Elsie]

you really should stop spitting greyfoxx39 it is not lady like!

What I could do with THIS line!

[aMorePerfectUnion]

heresy of mormonism and its coverups placemarker

[greyfoxx39]

DITTO “heresy of mormonism and its coverups placemarker”

[restornu]

You have been given the source many times and still it reveals you have no clue what to do with it!

Thr TRUTH of Christianity has been shown to YOU many times; but you REFUSE to cling to it; CHOOSING rather the heresy of MORMONism.

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You tell me who believes in hersey when so many continue to embrace a political clergy lie in 325 AD and ignore Gal 1:8 ["But through WE", or, it did not just say another angel "only" warning to Paul which was "current hersey" preaching preaching another gos taking place around 33 AD nothing to do with 1800's AD!

...and refuses to take the scriptures at their word!

1 Gal 8

(Jesus through revelation is speaking to Paul) 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men?

for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it,

but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Was not the Nicene Creed “Trinity” debated here on earth and among various clergy, also as well political clergy, arm of Constantine and taught and received by man?

Is it not true that Paul said Gal 1:12 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it,

but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Jesus never denied the His Father in Heaven nor said they were same “being” Jesus said they were one in doing the will, as the husband and wife should be One or the Children of God should be ONE doing the will of the Heavenly Father.

1. John 14: 2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

• • •

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

• • •

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

• • •

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

• • • 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

• • •

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

2 Pet. 1

17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

1 Jn. 3:

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Luke 9:

35 And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

Matt. 3:

17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Matt. 17:

5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

[svcw]

And this has to do with King David, how?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

I’ve spotted your problem!

Here it is: “...so many continue to embrace a political clergy lie in 325 AD “

That’s where you went off the rails and over a cliff. You mistakenly wrote down a mormonic lie in your post.

Of course, mormonism MUST repeat this lie, if it is to appear Christian, right? It isn’t though, since the lie of mormonism requires a lie about history.

I believe you probably wrote this all mistakenly and without thinking it through.

best,
ampu

[Elsie]

...and refuses to take the scriptures at their word!

Oh just go away!

The WORLD knows that it's YOUR founder and leaders that did this; by glomming onto more wives than GOD told them to!

Your vapid moralizing is sickening in the face of these FACTS.

[Elsie]

 

Of course, mormonism MUST repeat this lie, if it is to appear Christian, right?

 

 

" The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success

unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly -

- it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over."

[CommerceComet]

Thank you for that outstanding example of eisegesis. Development of eisegesis is probably the most significant theological contribution which Mormonism has made to the Christian community. Many Mormons, particularly their apologists, have really mastered this skill.

BTW, do I really need to put a sarcasm tag on that?

[restornu]

Sad none of you can not deal with the real WORD as it says!

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Sad none of you can not deal with the real WORD as it says!”

Oh, we’re absolutely GREAT with the Holy Bible. It is the false mormonic verses that we disagree with...

[Elsie]

Sad none of you can not deal with the real WORD as it says!

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TRUTH IGNORED

 

 

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Smith, Young, Taylor, Pratt, Snow, Kimbal,l Woodruff ...

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 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

 

 

1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.

 

 

 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.

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BEHOLD!!!!  The Restorative Power  of the Book of Mormon!!

 

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THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI

CHAPTER 2

 

  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.

 

 

Sad none of you can not deal with the real WORD as it says!

[restornu]

If you read the Book of Mormon you would know there are different time periods...

[greyfoxx39]

You tell me who believes in hersey when so many continue to embrace a political clergy lie in 325 AD and ignore Gal 1:8 ["But through WE", or, it did not just say another angel "only" warning to Paul which was "current hersey" preaching preaching another gos taking place around 33 AD nothing to do with 1800's AD!

I believe in hershey!

[T Minus Four]

If you read the Book of Mormon you would know there are different time periods...

Same could be said for the Harry Potter series. Just as fictional and much more entertaining.