The Wacky World of Joseph Smith: And the un-Christianity of Mormon Theology

CATHOLIC ANSWERS ^ | Brian Harrison

[BipolarBob]

So far, your post wins the Truth and Honesty test.

[onedoug]

Hence, my contribution. Thank you.

[Bean Counter]

That will be next.

[Abin Sur]

Theology aside, the only interaction I've ever had with the Mormon Church was about 10 years ago, when I happened to be on a trip to Salt Lake City with my family. We had some free time, so we decided to take a tour of Temple Square.

I found the tour interesting; my mother was very impressed with the copy of the Christus statue in the North Vistors' Center. What made the greatest impression on me was our tour guide, a young girl from South America. While her English was fairly limited, it was clear that she was the most religiously devoted person I've ever met, before or since. Her faith practically radiated.

Mind you, it was a faith in which I don't have the slightest belief...but I've never had more than a passing conversation (at least in-person) about religion with a True Believer. It was an interesting perspective to encounter.

The other thing I recall was the protesters walking around with signs just outside the Square, yelling at people not to go in. I told them that they were being very rude, and that they should get a life. Sadly, I didn't persuade them,

[willk]

I find it disturbing that someone would post an article on here disparaging a religion that is not threatening to anyone else.

[svcw]

So you just pulled that thought outa a hat, I guess. Either back up your statement that Christians call for the death of lds or do something else that may actually be productive.

[svcw]

There is the temporal and the eternal. Lds is a threat to the eternal.

[ansel12]

I agree... To me a Christian is a Christian...

All Christian churches, Orthodox, Protestant, Catholic, agree that mormonism is not Christian.

CATHOLIC ANSWERS:
Question: I read recently that the Catholic Church had rejected Mormon baptism, since their view of Christ and the Trinity is so unusual. But I have to ask: Are Mormons considered separated brothers and sisters? While their views are strange to say the least, they are still separated, and we should reach out to them. If we view them as something other than separated, doesn't that exclude ecumenism? I know that many view them as a cult, but aren't cult members separated as well?

Answer: The reason Mormons are not considered separated brethren is not because they aren't "separated" from the Church-they are-but they aren't "brethren" in the sense required.

The phrase separated brethren refers to those who, though separated from full communion with the Catholic Church, have been justified through baptism and are thus brethren in Christ. The Decree on Ecumenism (Unitatis Redintegratio) of Vatican II teaches that "all who have been justified by faith in baptism are members of Christ's body, and have a right to be called Christian, and so are correctly accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church."

Because Mormonism is polytheistic and rejects the Trinity, Mormon baptism is not valid, and Mormons are not considered separated brethren. For the same reason, outreach to them, while certainly a good thing, is not ecumenism, though it can include dialogue and social cooperation as well as efforts to evangelize them.

[ansel12]

Sending missionaries out into our neighborhoods to pull Christians from Christ into an anti-Christian, hell-bound, cult, and doing it by posing as Christian on the surface to deceive at first, is still a big deal to many Americans, especially conservative, Christian Americans.

Some here that are complaining, need to quit asking why some Christians are fighting to save souls, and instead need to ask why they themselves are not joining the fight, or worse, have joined the fight on the wrong side.

[SoConPubbie]

Nothing new here. Old, tired and addressed a thousand times. Not a valid issue in sight. Just another day in the lair of the FR anti-Mormon gang.

Please provide proof.

I've never seen any of these issues appropriately or correctly or logically addressed and/or corrected.

Can you provide links to any FreeRepublic postings?

How about any external documents that prove your point?

[SoConPubbie]

Divisive thread. I can only assume it was posted to cause division within the Conservative movement.

Then you assume wrong.

Most, if not all, of these threads are posted by ex-mormons who have found the error of their former religion, repented, and found God. They are trying to lead as many people as possible out of the error of the Mormon church.

[MHGinTN]

Placemarker

[KevinDavis]

Well thankfully in America people have a right to worship Jesus their own way..

[ansel12]

That was a useless, irrelevant post.

[kosta50]

Send this to that imposter Glenn Beck.

[Saundra Duffy]

“it should not have been too difficult for a genuine “seer” to translate the missing portion again as long as he still had the plates and the miraculous translation stones (the “Urim and Thummin”) in his possession.”

Exactly why Joseph Smith was warned not to fall for Satan’s trick. Thank you.

[ronnie raygun]

Sounds like thier heading Romney off at the pass

[Godzilla]

Exactly why Joseph Smith was warned not to fall for Satan’s trick. Thank you.

Too bad he didn't learn anything since he 'translated' a pagan egyptian papyrus and the kinderhook plates too. Only a fake prophet translates fake documents.

[MHGinTN]

[Channeling Momron dudette] 'Thank you for proving Joseph a prophet when he said some would see him as evil and others for good.'

Some folks think 'discernment' is a thing which is takn from your pay check, else they would not continue in Mormonism once the actual truth about the peepstone sexual predator of married women false prophet, Joseph Smith, is exposed. And it doesn't seem to bother these same folks that the god of Momronism and the jesus of Mormonism are nothing like the God and Jesus of the Bible. Go figure

[terycarl]

The Catholic Church: The Church that protects pedophile priests and the Church that hates America...

I have been reading these blogs for years and that was the most inanecomment I've ever seen posted. If you can't handle the truth that is Catholicism, so be it, but you are so insecure in your beliefs that you strike out at those who aren't.....so sad