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Seekers of truth,

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the "quotation" the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.Later they will have the audacity to claim they were "only" quoting our own material.  

They will of course insist ad nauseum that they are merely using our sources and are therefore innocent of any deceptive practice. LDS persons have no issue whatsoever having our scriptures or leaders quoted as long as it is presented fairly and accurately. This is rarely (if ever) done.

Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before.

You might note a couple of other tactics used to try to antagonize is the use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures. That's a Christlike thing to do right? Yeah I don't think so either. It does speak volumes about them though.

Sometimes they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.

After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever "issue" they seem to be "revealing" or "exposing". I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the "ahah" moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there's nothing new here. It's all been addressed many times before.

The latest twist in the anti-Mormon propaganda machine is to actually go to the links provided, but then they cherry pick what they want, then quote and straw man attack that. Clever. It almost appears that they are helping you, the seeker of truth out by doing some footwork for you. Not so much. Don't be insulted, look for yourself. It's not the haystack they want you to think.

Here's a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the "issues" brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here's more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

Now you will likely notice the "you never address our points" posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here.

Sometimes it is claimed that these sites present a needle in a haystack. Far from it. But if you give up before you try you won't know will you?

Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself. Want to chat with someone on any topic? A few of these sites provide just that. So do your homework sincere seeker of truth. Listen and read from both "sides". Make up your own mind.

I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

 


17 posted on 12/11/2010 12:37:32 PM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: All

I believe God knows the hearts of all, be they Mormon or Catholic or Protestant.

As for condemning other churches, etc., Jesus said something about those not with us being against us. I think only God and His angels are qualified to separate the wheat from the tares, no?

I believe if someone is sincerely seeking, God is able to bring them to Himself and does. I have no idea how God feels about the Christ that Mormons teach about, but I remember the widow who put her last two mites into the Temple that crucified Christ, and Jesus applauded her.

God knows the heart, whether we’re being deceived or misled, God knows our hearts.

So tell me what is it about the Jesus Christ of the Mormon church that would cost a Mormon their salvation? Do they believe He died and rose again and paid for our sins? Yes or no?

Because that’s the Jesus that I know and the Bible writes of. And if someone is confused about who His brother is (I think they think Satan is?) does that change what Christ did?

If leaders of any church mislead others, he will be dealt with. But the flock that puts their trust in Christ, puts their trust in Christ.

As far as I know the rest are just details.

(except for the universalist unitarian church, anyone who goes there HAS to be putting their hands over their eyes and know that they are)


24 posted on 12/11/2010 12:51:02 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: Paragon Defender; All
Seekers of truth


41 posted on 12/11/2010 1:10:47 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Paragon Defender

Dear Mormons who may be reading this thread and are embarrassed by the links posted endlessly by self-styled “defender mormons”,

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There’s a group of Christians who spend a great deal of time posting from Official Mormon Sources - both the Book of Mormon as well as Mormon Prophets and Church materials - real quotes of real mormon materials.

You will also notice that many of these Christians are former Mormons who have left Mormonism and come to know the real Jesus Christ and His Gospel of Grace.

They have a passion to reach other Mormons to share what they learned about Salvation by grace and apart from human works.

Of course, they are attacked regularly by a very, very small group of Mormons who have zeal, but no knowledge beyond what the Mormon Church has told them. They also continually fail to identify any:

… Facts
… Evidence
… Logical support - that any - > reasonable <- person could understand that would validate their Mormon claims.

They do endlessly post links that “address” things without answering them.

Consistently, this small group of Mormon posters are forced to face that mormonism is based on little more than subjective feelings that cannot be objectively verified.

People deserve more than feelings and useless links to non-answers.

After reading both sides on this thread and others, you may very well be wondering about what you were taught when you joined the LDS church. You also may be wondering how to resolve the lack of facts, evidence and illogical nature of Mormon claims.

Many have approached those of us who are Christians asking where to find out more and some, even, to ask how to leave the Church and learn more about Christ’s Gospel of Grace.

Here are a few links to get you started in your quest to know the Biblical Christ.

http://www.irr.org/mit/default.html
http://www.exmormonsforjesus.org/
http://4mormon.org/ex-mormon.php
http://www.exmormon.org/
http://www.mormoncurtain.com/

You should also feel comfortable private FReep-mailing any Christians on this thread to ask questions about the concerns you have. We always do our best to directly answer your questions with facts, evidence and logical support from the Bible.

best,
ampu


69 posted on 12/11/2010 1:43:36 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Paragon Defender
Please stop posting from unofficial lds sites, except for two of the ones listed they are unofficial and claim no affliction with lds.
116 posted on 12/11/2010 9:30:24 PM PST by svcw
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To: Paragon Defender
 
HI!
 
 My screen name is Paragon Defender; but you can call me PD (if you are SINCERE, that is.)
 
I provide TRUTH to ALL who would care to seek it (if they are REALLY sincere) and I do it OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER  again.

I am pleased to offer my services for the Betterment of Mankind.

Please feel free to ask me ANYTHING and I'll sincerely post my link list again.

Remember...

I am normal too; and I am a MORMON!

 

Sincerely,

PD


 
 

132 posted on 12/12/2010 5:02:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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