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To: vladimir998
Dealt with here:
To which I reply:

a) In this quotation, Augustine is refusing (at the time) to address the question of whether Mary had sin. He does not assert that she was sinless.
b) Augustine is saying that there is one (Jesus Christ) who certainly had no sin.
c) Augustine is addressing the issue of actual sin, not original sin.
Moreover, just a short time before writing "On Nature and Grace," Augustine wrote "On Merits and Forgiveness of Sins," in which he spoke more clearly:

Augustine (354-430):

This being the case, ever since the time when by one man sin thus entered into this world and death by sin, and so it passed through to all men, up to the end of this carnal generation and perishing world, the children of which beget and are begotten, there never has existed, nor ever will exist, a human being of whom, placed in this life of ours, it could be said that he had no sin at all, with the exception of the one Mediator, who reconciles us to our Maker through the forgiveness of sins.
NPNF1: Vol. V, On Merits and Forgiveness of Sins, and on the Baptism of Infants, Book II, Chapter 47.

Did Augustine Teach the Sinlessness of Mary?


20 posted on 12/08/2010 10:05:43 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: topcat54
You wrote: "Dealt with here" No, it isn't. Look at what your author DID NOT DEAL WITH: "...after all, how do we know what greater degree of grace for a complete victory over sin was conferred on her who merited to conceive and bring forth Him who all admit was without sin..." What GREATER DEGREE OF GRACE. Augustine is not just saying he won't deal with it. He's saying Mary receieved a greater degree of grace, but he doesn't know how much.
22 posted on 12/08/2010 10:12:55 AM PST by vladimir998 (The anti-Catholic will now evade or lie. Watch.)
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