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Presbyterians Against Israel
WSJ ^ | Dec 2010 | By MARVIN HIER AND ABRAHAM COOPER

Posted on 12/05/2010 10:04:52 PM PST by restornu

In many ways, the second half of the 20th century was a high point for Jewish-Christian relations.

Today, however, the anti-Israel politics of certain powerful Christian bodies hampers interfaith relations and threatens to breathe new life into medieval doctrine that demonized Jews for hundreds of years.

In 2007, the World Council of Churches, an umbrella organization of mostly liberal Protestants...

The Amman Call also labeled the barrier Israel has built to keep out Palestinian suicide bombers—which has effectively saved untold Jewish, Muslim and Christian lives—a "grave breach of international law" that must be removed.

In 2008, the World Council of Churches convened a group of Protestant and Catholic theologians to review the underpinnings of Christian attitudes toward Israel. (No Jews were invited.) ...

The Kairos document also describes the Jewish connection to Israel only in terms of the Holocaust, denying 3,000 years of Jewish domicile. "Our presence in this land, as Christian and Muslim Palestinians, is not accidental but rather deeply rooted in the history and geography of this land," it states.

Most importantly, these Palestinian church leaders declared that there must not be a Jewish state because any religious state is inherently racist.

The Kairos document quickly won accolades from religious groups including from the Presbyterian Church (USA),

...was the first mainline American Protestant group to call for divestment from Israel.

This past February, its Middle East Study Committee announced that it would urge the U.S. government to "employ the strategic use of influence and the withholding of financial and military aid" from Israel. While conceding Israel's right to exist,...

The Simon Wiesenthal Center will soon meet with the president of the World Council of Churches to urge an end to its campaign against Israel and the Jewish people. Like anti-Israel diplomatic and academic campaigns,...

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


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To: circlecity
Please cite a medieval Christian theological text which defines covenant theology as such.

Good luck; as she cannot post anything about the supposed UNTRUEness of 1830 PRESBYTERIANism, either.

21 posted on 12/06/2010 5:55:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: restornu
Do you have an image showing JS stating that "PRESBYTERIANism is UNTRUE!" ?
22 posted on 12/06/2010 5:56:32 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: Persevero
I totally agree with you.

This is the liberal Presbyterians not us conservatives!

23 posted on 12/06/2010 6:00:09 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: CAluvdubya

Okaaay, seems I’ve happened onto a war.....backing out of the room silently and running like the wind....


24 posted on 12/06/2010 6:05:07 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: CAluvdubya

Some just don’t like Resty humor and antidote to pull the anti’s leg !:)

Gosh they (anti’s) are such a big distraction I must get on with the rest of my day…:)


25 posted on 12/06/2010 6:11:10 AM PST by restornu (Fear and doubt is not of the Lord)
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To: restornu
Okay, I'm going to knock everyone's socks off here.

If Hier and Cooper aren't going to try to make Noachides of chr*stians, then what business is it of theirs what churches teach?

People like Hier and Cooper wouldn't dream of "proselyitizng" because "unlike certain other religions" they believe everyone is fine and acceptable to G-d "just as they are." But that doesn't keep them from dictating changes to other religions' internal theology. Why do they think that is better? It's a million times worse!

The Wiesenthal Center is nothing but a nest of PC, multicultural, pro-Israel libs. Granted, we should be thankful for whatever pro-Israel libs there are left, but they're still disgusting hypocrites.

26 posted on 12/06/2010 6:28:32 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayo'mer Yosef 'el-'echayv, "'Ani Yosef, ha`od 'Avi chay?" velo' yakhelu 'echayv la`anot 'oto . . .)
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To: Elsie

http://blog.beliefnet.com/deaconsbench/2008/03/Mormons-apologize-for-inexcusable-disrespect-toward-Catholics.html


27 posted on 12/06/2010 6:34:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: CAluvdubya

“And there was a war in heaven...”

Rev. 12: 7


28 posted on 12/06/2010 6:37:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: restornu
Fear and doubt is not of the Lord


But, since MORMONs do NOT believe the BIBLE:

Do not curse the deaf or put a stumbling block in front of the blind,
but fear your God. I am the Lord.

Leviticus 19:14

29 posted on 12/06/2010 6:40:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: restornu; Elsie; Tennessee Nana; circlecity
twelve apostates
30 posted on 12/06/2010 6:41:53 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: restornu

Liberal Protestants are engaging in historical revisionism concerning Jews and the Holy Land..Article


The world council of churches and even many single church bodys have so much power and clout in this world and are loved by so many people.

So by reading the verses below it appears that the world council of churches are one of the problems that the people who are preaching the real gospel are having to deal with.

It appears to me the big churches are loved by most nations, only the Jews are hated by all nations.

I am not anti Church but just anti religion and want to know the truth.

Mathew 24
9
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.

10
And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

I think any one has to admit that the Gospel has been preached to all the world, not necessarily because of the big organized religion, but partly that, and partly in spite of it.

Genesis 12:1 to 3
Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

2
And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great ; and thou shalt be a blessing
3
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed .

Abraham is still the father of Israel and Israel is still where it always was.


31 posted on 12/06/2010 6:49:50 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: Elsie

That is another falsehood of course the LDS believe in the Bible how do you think I was able to discern that the Book of Mormon was True.

Because I was witness by power of the Holy Ghost in many passages of the Bible as the spirit of the Lord also witness to me that the Book of Mormon is true.


32 posted on 12/06/2010 7:07:33 AM PST by restornu (Fear and doubt is not of the Lord)
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To: restornu

And this coming from a poster who’s religion believes -

The lost tribes reside within the earth

Their members can trace their heritage to Jews

Believe that the Amerindians are all descendants of Jews who arrived in the americas around 500BC

Who claim the Aaronic priesthood without being descendants of Aaron/Levi.


33 posted on 12/06/2010 7:52:30 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla; Paragon Defender

Thanks for revealing and sharing your deck of canards!


34 posted on 12/06/2010 7:59:42 AM PST by restornu (Fear and doubt is not of the Lord)
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To: restornu; Elsie
Because I was witness by power of the Holy Ghost in many passages of the Bible as the spirit of the Lord also witness to me that the Book of Mormon is true.

Believe the bible is true - no need for a bom

bom has some hundreds of verses plagiarized from the bible (as well as Shakespeare)

bom is fraud raised to the 10th power.

35 posted on 12/06/2010 8:07:41 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: restornu

36 posted on 12/06/2010 8:09:00 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

more from that deck of canards...


37 posted on 12/06/2010 8:17:07 AM PST by restornu (Fear and doubt is not of the Lord)
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To: restornu

38 posted on 12/06/2010 8:27:39 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: restornu; RJR_fan; The Theophilus; Lee N. Field
It marks a return to "replacement theology," …

Use of the term "replacement theology" is a form of historical revisionism along theological lines.

39 posted on 12/06/2010 10:37:35 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: Dogbert41
“Presbyterians Against Israel, the Apple of God’s Eye”

Or this: “Millions to Die in Future Holocaust”

The purge of Israel in their time of trouble is described by Zechariah in these words: “And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith Jehovah, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third Part 1nto the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried” (Zechariah 13:8, 9). According to Zechariah’s prophecy, two thirds of the children of Israel in the land will perish, but the one third that are left will be refined and be awaiting the deliverance of God at the second coming of Christ which is described in the next chapter of Zechariah. (John F. Walvoord, Israel in Prophecy (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan/Academie, [1962] 1988) 108.)

40 posted on 12/06/2010 10:45:07 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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