[Cronos]

That's a question to which I've replied ad nauseum on this thread, mostly in response to your fantastical posts.

let me repeat it once more for you

The teaching of the Church I am a humble member of - namely Christ's Church, the ONE Holy Apostolic and Catholic Church teaches us that Christ's sacrifice is what won us our Salvation. Church teaching is that His sacrifice is super-sufficient for our salvation.

All for God, all by God -- Mary did NOT save herself, she needed salvation and got that from her God, her Son, her Savior. Jesus saved Mary, He was her savior. He saved her, protected her from sin.

The Church knows and teaches that Mary being sinless or not had no impact on Christ's sinlessness -- don't you know that? -- Mary was pure just as the Ark was pure -- to enable her womb to contain God.

Christ's sacrifice is what won us our salvation, not Mary's sinlessness

I'll repeat what I asked you in post #482 why do you think your denying of Mary's sinless affect your salvation?. Why does your gruop's definition of beliefs hinge on negativity? No love in God, just attacking Christ's Church

[Quix]

As you know . . . I fiercely disagree.

[Iscool]

Mary was pure just as the Ark was pure -- to enable her womb to contain God.

If only you had a shred of evidence to support that fantasy...

[RnMomof7]

I'll repeat what I asked you in post #482 why do you think your denying of Mary's sinless affect your salvation?. Why does your gruop's definition of beliefs hinge on negativity? No love in God, just attacking Christ's Church

What is not understood is that it is not "negative" to demand a correct reading of the word of God. It is not negative to demand that ALL GLORY for salvation go to God ALONE..there no co redeemers ...It is not negative to ask people to turn from their idolatry, repent and turn to Christ and Christ alone as the full propitiation of their sins, not to seek to buy themselves back from the slavery of sin , not to go to His mother to ask nice for them,.

Catholics say the words that Christ saved them at the same time the bath tub Mary is still looked at as a way to clean up

I know catholics really do not THINK they worship mary and therefore are guilty of breaking the 1st commandment .. but we witness daily here and in our lives a devotion to her that is greater than the love of Christ.. There is NO PRACTICAL or BEHAVIORAL difference between "worship and veneration" because they are really the same..

As a saved child of God and sister to Christ the magnification of glory of God is primary in my life..

The love of God demands that the truth of the gospel be spoken, men hate it because they want to build their own god and their own way to salvation.. but the warning rings in my ears..

Pro 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death.