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To: Cronos
Where exactly does Mary being sinless contradict scripture?

How many times do we have to post Scripture to support that?

Luke 1: 46-47 And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,

SHE knew she needed a savior....

Romans 3:21-26 21But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned—

1 John 1:8-10 8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Mary died? She sinned. That's the proof.

Or does your Gnostic group believe it has esoteric knowledge denied to the rest of us?

*sigh* We refer continually to Scripture and are even castigated for the concept of *sola scriptura* and now you ask if we have some knowledge denied to the rest of you? No, we don't. The Bible is available to all, but it doesn't do anybody any good is it's not read and studied.

Isn't your group's caste-system a little too wacked out?

What *caste-system*? Whose group? Who are you categorizing as what?

561 posted on 12/06/2010 8:07:22 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Luke 1: 46-47 And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, Sigh-- didn't we just tell you that Mary was saved by God? She was saved from sin by Jesus Christ, her Son

For all have sinned -- yes, we already asked you, has a new born baby sinned?

Death spread to all men -- Maybe not Elijah, but Mary did die too.

Mary was saved by God.

574 posted on 12/06/2010 8:24:24 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (And the word was made flesh, and dwelt amonst us))
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To: metmom
Luke 1: 46-47 And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, Sigh-- didn't we just tell you that Mary was saved by God? She was saved from sin by Jesus Christ, her Son

For all have sinned -- yes, we already asked you, has a new born baby sinned?

Death spread to all men -- Maybe not Elijah, but Mary did die too.

Mary was saved by God.

does your Gnostic group believe it has esoteric knowledge denied to the rest of us? Isn't your group's caste-system a little too wacked out?

575 posted on 12/06/2010 8:24:49 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (And the word was made flesh, and dwelt amonst us))
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