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To: wagglebee; Iscool; dartuser; 1000 silverlings; UriÂ’el-2012; Gamecock; Quix; metmom; RnMomof7; ...
iscool: When God says all have sinned, he obviously doesn't include himself...

wagglebee: Actually, God didn't say that, Saint Paul wrote it.

Wow. So Rome has now stayed so far from orthodox Christianity as to deny the inspired Scriptures are God-breathed. Your own catechism refutes your error...

106 - God inspired the human authors of the sacred books. "To compose the sacred books, God chose certain men who, all the while he employed them in this task, made full use of their own faculties and powers so that, though he acted in them and by them, it was as true authors that they consigned to writing whatever he wanted written, and no more."

107 - The inspired books teach the truth. "Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures."

Now, as is the way of Rome, the RCC catechism goes on to hedge and dodge and double-speak the truth it just recorded in 106 and 107. But the fact remains, Rome considers the "all" the Scriptures to be "affirmed by the Holy Spirit" and that the authors wrote "whatever (God) wanted written, and no more."

Apparently you are at odds with your own catechism in your denial that God through Paul authored the Scriptures.

However, I can see where this confusing for anti-Catholics, they nominally worship Paul as their god (though they are actually serving Satan).

Pathetic. We speak of errant practices and beliefs within the RCC and you denounce Christians as servants of Satan.

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction." -- 2 Peter 2:1

"...even dying the Lord that bought them."

RC apologists had better hope that "denial" does not include denying God's inspired word and denying the fact that it was God who wrote the Scriptures in order to tell them the Good News of Jesus Christ. Sadly, some RCs would have the world believe "God didn't say that, Saint Paul wrote it."

1,091 posted on 12/07/2010 12:01:43 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; wagglebee; Gamecock

It’s much worse to say that Christians, (and yes he did concede that he considered “a handful” of what he considers “antiCatholics” to be Christians, who then are indwelt by the HS,) serve Satan


1,093 posted on 12/07/2010 12:06:30 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Well at least my friend didn’t say Paul was nuts


1,096 posted on 12/07/2010 12:11:45 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You know very well that Catholics believe Scripture is inspired. What we do not believe is that God dictated the words and the writers acted only as passive receivers of those words.

“Those divinely revealed realities which are contained and presented in Sacred Scripture have been committed to writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. For holy mother Church, relying on the belief of the Apostles (see John 20:31; 2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Peter 1:19-20, 3:15-16), holds that the books of both the Old and New Testaments in their entirety, with all their parts, are sacred and canonical because written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God as their author and have been handed on as such to the Church herself.(1) In composing the sacred books, God chose men and while employed by Him (2) they made use of their powers and abilities, so that with Him acting in them and through them, (3) they, as true authors, consigned to writing everything and only those things which He wanted. (4)”

Let us see you retract the erroneous statement you made. Crickets.


1,097 posted on 12/07/2010 12:11:54 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Jaded; Judith Anne; Legatus; maryz; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; ...
Do you have a dictionary that indicates that either "God-breathed" or "inspired" are synonymous with "dictated"?

Apparently you are at odds with your own catechism in your denial that God through Paul authored the Scriptures.

No, I'm at odds with YOUR INTERPRETATION of the Catechism.

We speak of errant practices and beliefs within the RCC and you denounce Christians as servants of Satan.

For the last time, I have NEVER denounced a single Christian as a servant of Satan.

Just curious, are you ever going to join a religion that believes in actually reading the Gospels and doesn't really strictly on the epistles of Saint Paul? The OPC routinely goes months without hearing a single verse of the Gospels read in their Sunday morning services.

1,099 posted on 12/07/2010 12:13:06 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; wagglebee

So, how’s the OrthoPresboCult doing these days? Has your local cult branch made it’s regular manger scene with baby Gresham Machen replacing baby JEsus?


1,363 posted on 12/08/2010 4:51:23 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (And the word was made flesh, and dwelt amonst us))
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