I was referencing the source of the bible verses I cited which you falsely asserted were not in the bible. St. Elizabeth greet the Blessed Virgin Mary "Blessed are you among women," and "mother of my Lord," and to whom Mary declared that "all ages shall call me blessed." How is it you do not recognize these allusions?
BEFORE Elizabeth could see or recognize Christ the Holy Spirit had to open her eyes ... The prophet John the Baptist was filled while in the womb of his mother
Yes, when Elizabeth HEARD THE VOICE OF MARY, John the Baptist leapt with joy in his mother's womb.
How do YOU know ALL other men were condemned? What is your source of that knowledge? God ALWAYS has a remnant according to grace
All men were condemned prior to the coming of Christ, for all have been born with original sin. Except one, she who was "filled with grace."
Mat 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
Among those WHAT that are born of women? The unedited passage says THIS:
"But what went you out to see? A Prophet? Yea, I tell you, and more than a prophet! For this is he of whom the angel has written, 'Behold, I send my angel before thy face, who shall prepare thy way before thee.' Amen, I say to you, there has not risen among them that are born of women a greater than John the Baptist: yet he that is the least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than him."John was the greatest among prophets, but less than the least of the Kingdom of Heaven (for he died without being saved by Grace, although to those such as him did Christ preach to those in prison, and for whom the gates of Hell did not withstand. Mary, saved doubly by Grace through her immaculate Conception, and by receiving the blood of Christ, is not counted among those to whom Jesus referred. By your understanding, you would also have to presume that John the Baptist was greater than Peter, Paul, John the evangelist, James and the rest of the disciples, for they were also born of women by that time.
Where did I say they were not in the bible?? please show me.. I quoted the verse PROCEEDING the greeting of elizabeth ...Why was Mary called blessed by God among women ?? The question is how did Elizabeth know it??
Yes, when Elizabeth HEARD THE VOICE OF MARY, John the Baptist leapt with joy in his mother's womb.
Can you read scripture with UNDERSTANDING? It was NOT MARY that opened Elizabeths eyes . Mary had not one thing to do with Elizabeth's revelation . It was the presence of Christ herald by Mary's greeting ..
One more time
Luk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
It was like ALL THINGS a work of God..NOT MARY it was His presence not hers
All men were condemned prior to the coming of Christ, for all have been born with original sin. Except one, she who was "filled with grace."
All men are still condemned today until they repent and believe in Christ as their Savior.. However to say that ALL men were consigned to hell ( as you imply) ,Abraham. Jacob .joseph, Moses David, etc... would be very surprised.. (read Hebrews 11)
There is not one infallible word written that says or implies mary was ever sinless... what she was, was faithful and obedient .... never said or implied sinless ..
John was the greatest among prophets,
And the scripture that says Mary is greater than the prophets is found where???
(for he died without being saved by Grace,
Really?? You know that how??? Hbr 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
ALL the old Testament Saints were saved by grace.. theOld testament God is the same as the new Testament God... His mercy and forbearance has never changed, neither has the means of His salvation.. We are saved by looking BACK at the cross in faith..THEY were saved looking FORWARD to the cross..
By your understanding, you would also have to presume that John the Baptist was greater than Peter, Paul, John the evangelist, James and the rest of the disciples, for they were also born of women by that time.
You know I had never really thought about it before.. but indeed John must be greater than them. Scripture is by its very nature written by prophets ( ones that speak for God), and if John was the greatest of prophets born of women.. then in Gods economy he must be greater
Luke 7:27-28 This is he of whom it is written,
"'Behold, I send my messenger before your face, who will prepare your way before you.' I tell you, among those born of women none is greater than John. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he."
It doesn't take a whole lot of understanding or reading comprehension to get that. Jesus Himself said that there was no one born who was greater than John.
If you choose to disagree with that, you'll find yourself at odds with the clear, plain teaching of Jesus on the matter.