“It’s an industry whose existence and success depends on spreading rumors, half-truths, and outright lies about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.”
If you are sooooo sure there are:
rumors
half-truths
outright lies
Then perhaps you will share which of these is which:
1. Mormons believe in many, many gods.
2. Mormons believe that Jesus Christ was created and not eternally God.
3. Mormons believe that the gods breed in heaven in order to create additional spirit children.
4. Mormons believe polygamy is STILL practiced in heaven.
5. Mormons believe they can qualify to become gods with their own planet, wives and worshippers.
OK, Saundra, which of those statements are TRUE (all of them are true, by the way), which are “rumors”, which are “half-truths”, and which are “outright lies?”
Please come right out and tell the truth.
ampu
PS - For the record, I am not earning a single penny by pointing this out to you. Never have. Never will. And every statement above is true.
1. Mormons believe in many, many gods.
2. Mormons believe that Jesus Christ was created and not eternally God.
3. Mormons believe that the gods breed in heaven in order to create additional spirit children.
4. Mormons believe polygamy is STILL practiced in heaven.
5. Mormons believe they can qualify to become gods with their own planet, wives and worshippers.
OK, Saundra, which of those statements are TRUE (all of them are true, by the way), which are “rumors”, which are “half-truths”, and which are “outright lies?”
Hey Ampu, long time no see. I'll field this one, if that's OK, Saundra.
1. Lie,
Articles of Faith #1, we believe in the Godhead, as defined in the Bible, not the
The Trinity, a man made definition of God, which is not in the Bible anywhere, and was foisted of on the Church by Constantine in AD, 325. BTW, lurkers, the links go to either my page on FR where there are links to authoritative sources, or to the scriptures on line.
2. Lie. Jesus is eternal because he exists outside of time, he created time, and will still be God (as one of the three members of the Godhead) after time ends.
3. "Breed in heaven", Half truth. Breed is a crude phrase, Jesus himself said
that we are the children of God, and that God is "
the Father of Spirits, so do we believe that God is the Father of spirits? yes, breed? Get your mind out of the Gutter, that is not our belief.
4. Lie. No marriages happen in heaven, we do believe that marital relationships started here on earth continue in heaven, including all the polygamous ones by Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses and other prophets from the Bible who were polygamous.
5. Lie. We say nothing about inheriting a planet, we speak of inheriting all that God hath"
Romans 8:16-17, allow me to excerpt it:
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
What does it mean to b e joint heir?
Jesus, God the father's only Begotten in the flesh (a very interesting phrase if you stop to think of all the meaning(s) there...)
inherits all that his father hath, IE. The kingdom. We are
if so be that we suffer with him joint heirs with Christ... We inherit the kingdom and everything that Jesus has... We become gods, through the grace of Jesus Christ, our savior. (which is why some want to say we are polytheists)
There is however, a logical problem with the polytheist thing, follow this logic:
I have a father.
I grew up and now have children.
I My bothers also grew up and have children.
My brother having children, does not make him my father.
There is no way his kids will call me father.
My children will not call my father when they don't like my rules in my house, there is no appeal to a "higher power"
I do not need any permission, or authority, or anything from my father to be a father, I have grown up, and am independent on my own.
All life is a type and a shadow of the eternities and God's structures, the structure of the family (
which was designed by God) is a type and a shadow of the things that have been and the things to come.
Theosis is a concept from both the Bible, and the early church, compare these two quotations:
God became man so that man might become god
and
as man is god once was as god is man may be
now one was said by a "Church Father", the other by a Mormon prophet...
Most people, if they know at all will know because they will recognize the quote from Lorenzo Snow. Why has "Orthodox Christianity moved away from this doctrine that was so clear and common as to not be noticeable? When did "Orthodox Christianity change, and doesn't that call down
Galatians 1:8-9 on those who changed the gospel?
For those who don't know, here is the passage:
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Mormons, teach the Gospel as it was taught by the apostles, interpreting the scriptures as the apostles did, continuing in their work, thus we are attacked and maligned by those who don't want our message heard.
I have a page that answers most of the "charges leveled against Mormons here (hence there is no excuse for the continuing misstatements made by those opposed to us here).
For anyone who is interested,
here is a link
I testify to all men that Jesus lives! In him only do I have hope, he is my lord, my God my Savior. I love him with all my heart. I know this to be true and if any man wishes to know as I know the truthfulness of the gospel, I recommend
The Test found in both the Bible, and the Book of Mormon to you. I promise you that if you take this test in faith and with all diligence that God will testify to you of his truths and you will know of his goodness and mercy. God lives! He loves you! This I testify in the name of Jesus Christ, my lord, my God, my Savior.
God bless you all with his love and with his truth.
Delph