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To: Colofornian; Logophile

You remind me of the Scribes & Pharisees and all their dot and tittle!

look where it got them....


22 posted on 11/14/2010 7:23:25 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

The phrase is ‘jot and tittle’ and it is Mormonism with ‘after all that you can do to earn God’s Grace that is playing the righteous pharisaic game, Resty. Don’t you recall what your religion has taught you, that ONLY Mormons have the righteousness and therefore can be baptized for those who die without salvation so they can be saved in the afterlife? And that’s just one of the rot doctrines of your man-made religious legal system!


23 posted on 11/14/2010 7:40:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: restornu; MHGinTN; Logophile; Godzilla; All
You remind me of the Scribes & Pharisees and all their dot and tittle! look where it got them....

Resty, do you even KNOW the Bible verses from which you try to quote & mangle?????????????

ALL: FR, lurkers...look at what this long-time Mormon FReeper mangler of the Word does here: She takes a positive rendering of jot & tittle in Matthew 5...and tries to make it a negative (note..."jot and tittle" comes from Jesus' reference below about the smallest letter/stroke of a pen in Hebrew):

18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore ANYONE who sets aside ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE COMMANDS AND TEACHES OTHERS ACCORDINGLY will be called LEAST in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will CERTAINLY NOT enter the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:18-20)

Restornu, here this is about the ONLY time Jesus is "positive" about the Pharisees and the teachers of the law. Why? Because outwardly the Pharisees stressed God's commandments. And yet with your negative attitude, you want to turn Jesus' words here into a negative.

ELSEWHERE Jesus was heartily negative about the Pharisees? Why? Primarily because of their inward hypocrisy...which he compared to being like unwashed cups & graveyards.

Jesus knew their inward nature? (Do you pretend to know mine?) Here in post #27, you said:
I cannot be responsible for how someone receives the message but I CAN be sure of my motives for posting and the tone in which I speak/write.

Do you pretend to know my inward motives? (Doesn't the Bible say ONLY God knows us on the inside -- 1 Sam. 16:7?)

29 posted on 11/14/2010 9:15:40 PM PST by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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To: restornu
You remind me of the Scribes & Pharisees and all their dot and tittle!

I'm remkinded that MORMONs have NO idea what Josepoh Smith 'learned' what he claimed was 'not true' about PRESBYTERIANism.

Didn't you used to BE one, Restornu?


http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”
 

48 posted on 11/15/2010 4:48:46 AM PST by Elsie
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