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Ten Lies I Told as a Mormon Missionary
Mormonism Research Ministry ^ | Loren Franck

Posted on 11/08/2010 3:37:09 PM PST by delacoert

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To: restornu
...again flocks are being fleece in other groups too.

Of course. There's lack of discernment in all groups. Where do you think Mormons & other cults are proselytizing a lot of its converts from? (Christian deonominations)

But it's exactly those people, lacking discernment, and going to these cults, that tends to concentrate gullibility to a higher aspect within certain religious bodies.

421 posted on 11/12/2010 1:53:53 PM PST by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] ph<enomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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To: restornu

You conTINUE to ignore AoF #8.

SHAME on you for posting things that may be UNTRUE.

But you USED to be a PRESBYTERIAN; right?


422 posted on 11/12/2010 2:09:26 PM PST by Elsie
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To: restornu

Your stenographer on break?


423 posted on 11/12/2010 2:10:38 PM PST by Elsie
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To: delacoert

What went wrong?


424 posted on 11/12/2010 2:12:09 PM PST by Elsie
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To: Normandy
My purpose for posting here is to share what I have come to know for myself.

And I keep waiting for you to do just that.

425 posted on 11/12/2010 2:15:07 PM PST by Elsie
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To: restornu
 

That is inane there is a different between a thief and an annoying boor!
But... Which is WHICH??

 



http://www.templestudy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/joseph-smith2.jpg


 
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(The Great Plaster Joseph Smith)
 
 


426 posted on 11/12/2010 2:17:30 PM PST by Elsie
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To: sitetest; delacoert; ArrogantBustard

When I was in training to serve a Mormon mission, I was told not to mention or discuss or even admit to certain LDS doctrines. That is lying by omission. I was told to do this because ‘if we told the truth, no one would join’.

Furthermore, many former LDS missionaries admit that they either lied by omission or mislead investigators about LDS beliefs. This is often referred to as only giving the ‘preparatory gospel’ or ‘milk before meat’.

There is a lot of lying that goes on by LDS members, missionaries and leadership.


427 posted on 11/12/2010 2:27:21 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: restornu; Religion Mod

Don't hold you breath. BTW, is that making in personnal?

428 posted on 11/12/2010 2:43:20 PM PST by delacoert
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To: Normandy

“Why would any demon want a person to believe in the reality of Jesus Christ?”

Because he has you believing if a false, created christ who is unable to save. Satan wins. Mormons lose - he has you innoculated against the truth.

“Would a demon inspire a person to repent of their sins and follow Jesus?”

He has mormons still trying to be worthy- which means they have NOT repented of the sin of pride. Even if somehow they do repent, the end up believing in a fake Mormon christ who cannot save. Satan wins. Mormons pay a terrible price.


429 posted on 11/12/2010 3:51:04 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: restornu
Hey look emma - joseph smith really was written about in the bible. . . . .


430 posted on 11/12/2010 4:04:07 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Normandy

But you allow other, fallible, mortal, human men to tell you what to wear, what to eat, what to drink, how to live and how much money to pony up. In the name of the Lord.


431 posted on 11/12/2010 4:14:44 PM PST by T Minus Four (Duh. We were talking about in the old days or not-so-distant old days)
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To: delacoert

Thank you for your story. Never forget (which many people do) we are saved by grace, and you are now. God bless you. Its sounds like Mormonism is Legalistic.

I am a sinner and it is by the grace of God I have been saved. ^j^


432 posted on 11/12/2010 4:41:34 PM PST by redneck with hot sauce
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To: redneck with hot sauce

The REAL Good News placemarker ... a new set of dos and don’t doesn’t sound like good news at all, does it!


433 posted on 11/12/2010 4:48:04 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I don’t see someone who repents of sin tries to serve God as being full of the sin of pride. That is what Jesus wants of his disciples.

Certainly there is no place for boasting in the service of the Lord. We are to acknowledge our weakness before God at all times.


434 posted on 11/12/2010 4:55:08 PM PST by Normandy
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To: T Minus Four

I believe that God gives revelations and commandments through the servants he has chosen. It happened all the way through the Bible. No one said that Noah, Moses, Peter, John, etc. were without fault — but God used them to reveal his will and commandments to man.


435 posted on 11/12/2010 5:01:25 PM PST by Normandy
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To: Normandy
By unspoken association, you've impugned Noah, and Moses, Peter and John, because you want us to associate the divination peepstone sexual predator of married women, Joseph Smith, with these you named! What does it say about someone's chosen belief system when they have to lower the image of giants to allow their chosen peepstone prophet a place at the 'God's chosen men' table? But that begs the question, 'Does someone who does that actually realize how special the persons they're denigrating really were, by God's standards', not the standards of men?

Noah believed God (that's faithing, the verb form, in Greek pisteuo) and started building a gigantic boat!

Moses believed God and went back to Egypt to be God's deliverer of the chosen people. [That word 'believed in the King James is actually derived from pisteuo, to faithe.]

Peter was a fisherman and when God called him to follow an itinerant preacher and leave his nets, Peter believed God had a plan and later found that that plan had been prophesied for more than a thousand years and was being carried out in his lifetime!

John the beloved Apostle was just a boy when Jesus began his ministry, but John was the only one who did not run away when Jesus was snatched by the 'authorities' and dragged before Pilate then the Sanhedrin and then back to Pilate, being beaten in the process nearly to death! Because of John's loyalty/faithing, he was the only Apostle not killed in some heinous fashion and he was given the releveation of things to come through to the end of times!

But let's not stop there, what of a Prostitute named Mary? She was so broken and contrite when she met Jesus that she spent what was possibly her last coin to purchase an alabaster bottle of expensive perfume, and she cried over Jesus's feet and wiped her tears with her hair and anointed Jesus Whom she deemed so precious and worthy of her adoration.

Now, let's look at the peepstone diviner who lied and cheater farmers and played sexual predation of married women, Joseph Smith. This known lair and conman made up stories even before he supposedly had revealed by 'an angel of light' the golden plates.

This same lair and conman, JOseph Smith, fabricated an entire text of supposed God-inspired scriptures, containing lengthy word for word passages lifted from the king James Bible, and this same conman's made up texts --using a supposed peepstone in his hat-- have been shown to contradict what the real God-inspired scriptures teach. God is not the author of confusion, so if the Book of Mormon was actually God breathed there would not be contradictions on the order of what exist between the Bible (Old and NEw Testaments) and the book of mormon.

In point of fact, not one credible shred of archaeological or scientific (DNA) data has been found to corroborate this liars claimed 'scriptural' history of this continent as conveyed in the poorly written novel called the book of mormon!

To make matters even more grave concerning this supposed prophet of God, this same Joseph Smith fabricated a lengthy text from what he claimed was Egyptian text written by Abraham, which was soon after found to be completely erroneous rot, not anything like what the Egyptian heiroglyphs conveyed!

This same supposed prophet of God made up whole rituals for temple worship, lifted from the Masonic rituals! ...

And you, Normandy, want us to believe this lying, peepstone divination conman sexual predator of married women was chosen by God to establish ... no, excuse me, to 'RESTORE' true Christinaity to humankind? If it were not so tragic that so many are duped into this conman's deranged cult, it would be laughable!

436 posted on 11/12/2010 5:56:44 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Normandy

Normandy, you may not see it, but then you are inside the
Morg. I doubt you could be objective.

The fact that you responded that way tells me you do not
yet apprehend the meaning of the Gospel of Grace. I hope
you do. There is a real Jesus Christ with a real Gospel of
Grace. Don’t settle for the do-it-yourself-mormon-worthiness
gospel.

best,
Dave


437 posted on 11/12/2010 6:44:36 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: MHGinTN

peace


438 posted on 11/12/2010 7:07:59 PM PST by delacoert
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To: delacoert

No, she is expressing her mind not reading yours.


439 posted on 11/12/2010 7:35:09 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Normandy; T Minus Four
I believe that God gives revelations and commandments through the servants he has chosen.

Give us a break Normandy. For all the fluff Mormons give us about having a "Living Prophet," even if we were still in the Old Testament, God often had 2 or 3 prophets He was speaking through simultaneously (not the "one-at-a-time" mousetrap of Mormonism).

In fact, Elijah hid 100 prophets one time. Does Lds have 100 prophets -- simultaneously?

So the operative word in your comment is "servants" -- plural...and not just sequential serial servants, who give only one canonized "revelation" per century like the Mormon "prophets" did in the 20th century.

I've cited Heb. 1:1-2...and Jesus was confident that the Word He gave His disciples was satisfactory (John 17:8,14,17) -- enough to sanctify them by God's Word even as He was about to leave. So you're now satisfied that Jesus didn't communicate enough?

And of course, the Mormon "prophets" want to usurp the role of the Holy Spirit, who speaks through the prophetic spiritual gifts to and through His world-wide body.

Just frankly, it's pretty sickening that your white god is stuck on having to ONLY pick white gods from a certain elderly generation from one dinky country on planet earth for time immemorial. And it's worse that Mormondom usurps the Holy Spirit's ability to speak to and through His Church just fine, thank you:

when he, the Spirit of truth, comes,
he will guide you into all the truth.
He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears,
and he will tell you what is yet to come.
14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you.
15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”
(John 16:13-15)

440 posted on 11/12/2010 10:02:39 PM PST by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] ph<enomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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