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To: metmom; annalex; count-your-change
Hardly -- what is funnier is those who believe in SOLA scriptura can't find that term in the Bible hence the term is negated according to the rule of SOLA scriptura -- a circular failure

let's see what you DO believe:
1. That Mary was a virgin when Christ was conceived
2. This was a spiritual birth -- she did not have intercourse

Now, post that, do you actually have any proof for her having other children? Either scriptural (for a sola scriptura lady) or from early Christians? No.

You use suppositions from scipture ("brethern", which is commonly the term for cousins in the Middle East even until today or could even be half/step-brothers and sisters -- as early Christians held that St. Joseph was an elderly man when he was placed in charge of Mary -- and I guess the guys in those days know a leetle better than someone 2000 years later, eh?

At no point since the time of Christ was Mary's ever virginity ever doubted, until 1500 years later. And this of course led to the next stage which we see expressed in Mormonism and JWs and the OPC -- that ok, Jesus (according to the LDS, OPC etc) was nothing special, a man who became God according to them.

Why is it so important to YOU to deny this and to deny the writings of Early Christians?

Doesn't the conundrum of the term sola scriptura which is not IN scripture confuse you enough?

What difference does it make to you that Mary was a virgin after she gave birth to Our Lord?
4,196 posted on 12/02/2010 12:18:30 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (And the word was made flesh, and dwelt amonst us))
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To: Cronos; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

I never claimed she remained a virgin after Jesus birth.

The prophecy was that a virgin would conceive and bear a son.

She did. Prophecy fulfilled. Done deal.

Scripture clearly speaks of Jesus brothers and sisters and goes as far as naming the brothers.

The teachings that they were cousins does not fit in context, the teaching that she was perpetually a virgin is in direct contradiction to Matthew 1:25. That would make it a lie.

THAT is why it’s important whether she was perpetually a virgin..... or not.

I don’t care how many *church fathers* agreed to this, or how close to His life they were. Error was creeping into the church from the very beginning. Paul had to address it in several of his epistles.

And besides, consensus does not truth make. Broad is the way that leads to hell and many are there that find it. Just because lots of people believe something, doesn’t make it true.


4,246 posted on 12/02/2010 7:41:54 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Cronos; metmom; annalex; count-your-change
What difference does it make to you that Mary was a virgin after she gave birth to Our Lord?

Of course I can't speak for metmom but my answer is none!

What difference does it make to you?

4,339 posted on 12/02/2010 2:40:32 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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