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Is she sinless or not? They are saying she is sinless, anyone sinless doesn’t need a Savior but MARY knew she needed a Savior.

Take back your lie that the Church teaches Mary did not need the Savior to protect her from sin.

2,556 posted on 11/18/2010 8:59:07 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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You are adding things I didn’t say - reminds me of that church you have faith in. Deception breeds deception.


2,564 posted on 11/18/2010 10:03:32 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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pnsn:Is she sinless or not? They are saying she is sinless, anyone sinless doesn’t need a Savior but MARY knew she needed a Savior.

mcpf: Take back your lie that the Church teaches Mary did not need the Savior to protect her from sin.

pnsn didn't say that she needed a savior to PROTECT her from sin.

Jesus doesn't *protect* us from sin, or anyone for that matter.

Jesus died to save us from the penalty of sin. For a church that teaches free will, I find that odd that they would look at it in that light.

Mary had free will to choose to sin or not, just like every other human being on this planet. Obviously SHE saw her need for a Savior. People who don't sin don't need one.

What Scripture in the Bible that the Catholic church takes responsibility for states that Mary was without sin? That she never sinned?

The only requirement for her in connection to Jesus was that she be a virgin through to His birth.

Everything else is irrelevant.

She didn't need to be always a virgin. She didn't need to be sinless.

I'll bet that her feet even touched the ground, unlike what I was told while in the Catholic church, that people so revered her that she never had to do anything and never had to walk anywhere, so her feet never touched the ground.

2,574 posted on 11/18/2010 11:35:44 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor; presently no screen name
Take back your lie that the Church teaches Mary did not need the Savior to protect her from sin.

It's about time to stop playing little girlie "take that back" games and begin playing with the big kids.

2,584 posted on 11/18/2010 2:11:28 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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