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To: HarleyD
"Right. This is what the Church teaches ..."

Maybe, just maybe you ought quote the entire reference instead of an out of context sentence from the last paragraph. Better yet, why don't you check out the Catechism of the Catholic Church to see what the Church ACTUALLY teaches.

1992 - Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ who offered himself on the cross as a living victim, holy and pleasing to God, and whose blood has become the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men.

Editorial by omission is just as intellectually dishonest as outright lying.

2,331 posted on 11/17/2010 3:30:39 AM PST by Natural Law (lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi)
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To: Natural Law; HarleyD
1992 - Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ who offered himself on the cross as a living victim, holy and pleasing to God, and whose blood has become the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men.

Words mean things.. what does "merited mean? This sure sounds like "opening the gates of heaven" so we can get in if we deserve it.

If Christ atoned for the sin of all men ..does that mean all men are saved? Did Christ ransom all men ?

2,407 posted on 11/17/2010 12:02:26 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: Natural Law
1992 - Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ who offered himself on the cross as a living victim, holy and pleasing to God, and whose blood has become the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men.

Thank you for posting the Catholic Church's Catechism and confirming exactly what I've been saying. Christ did NOT offer himself on the cross as a living "victim". He offered himself as a living "sacrifice". I would suggest you do a study in the difference between a victim and a sacrifice. Christ readily laid down his life as a ransom for many. He sacrificed himself. He wasn't a victim. A little training in the English language never hurts before you go calling people liars.

BTW-It doesn't surprise me that the Catholic Church DELIBERATELY change the scriptures. You may also wish to look up the word "deliberately".

2,447 posted on 11/17/2010 4:11:31 PM PST by HarleyD
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