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To: annalex; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums
Ephesians 2 clearly teaches that good works must accompany faith in order for us to be saved. I already commented on Romans iand Galatians. Luther invented his theory. It was not an innocent mistake -- he was an educated man.

You already commented on Romans and Galatians showing a lack of understanding

Ephesian's was written to a CHURCH ,saved men and women.. It was not a letter on HOW TO BE SAVED

Read the first verse .. 1And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
11Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone
; 21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Here it is, an epistle written to the saints , not about how to be saved but teaching them that their salvation is to the Glory of God, not themselves.. crediting God and His grace and His mercy NOT their works.. teaching that all the works they do are ORDAINED by God..God working in them and through them

Annalex it produces great sadness when we se the truth of 1Cr 2:14

1,872 posted on 11/14/2010 6:54:16 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: RnMomof7; annalex; metmom; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums
Great post, RnMom! For those with ears to hear. All glory to God alone.

Here it is, an epistle written to the saints , not about how to be saved but teaching them that their salvation is to the Glory of God, not themselves.. crediting God and His grace and His mercy NOT their works.. teaching that all the works they do are ORDAINED by God..God working in them and through them

AMEN!

To turn Paul's wonderful encouragement "to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus" into men's back-slapping self-congratulations for a job well done is just about as blind as it gets.

They do not know what grace is.

1,891 posted on 11/15/2010 12:47:27 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: RnMomof7; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums
Ephesian's was written to a CHURCH ,saved men and women.. It was not a letter on HOW TO BE SAVED

Interesting that without the verse 10 the Protestants routinely offer Eph 2 as a prooftext for "Faith alone". Now that you have seen that it actually says that we are saved by grace alone through faith and works, it no longer is teaching anything?

However, your remark makes no sense. The recepients of the letter are said to be "quickened" and in some sense even "saved". and the passage explains how that happens: by grace alone through faith and walking in the good works. So that is how we all, not just Ephesians, are saved.

2,912 posted on 11/22/2010 5:15:38 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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