And your nickname is also R.P. McMurphy?
Why don't you just stop playing the "poor me" games and stop being a
Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
In Christ Alone lyrics
Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;
In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm
What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand
In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save
?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live
There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again
And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ
And your nickname is also R.P. McMurphy?
Why don't you just stop playing the "poor me" games and stop being a
“”I just don’t believe that “fire and brimstone” nonsense and do not believe that tere is any greater punishment than being deprived of an eternity in the presence of God.””
That is correct,NL
The late Blessed Pope John PaulII sums this up very well explaining the figurative pool of fire...
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/audiences/1999/documents/hf_jp-ii_aud_28071999_en.html
The Book of Revelation also figuratively portrays in a “pool of fire” those who exclude themselves from the book of life, thus meeting with a “second death” (Rv 20:13f.). Whoever continues to be closed to the Gospel is therefore preparing for “eternal destruction and exclusion from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might” (2 Thes 1:9).
3. The images of hell that Sacred Scripture presents to us must be correctly interpreted. They show the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God. Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy. This is how the Catechism of the Catholic Church summarizes the truths of faith on this subject: “To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God’s merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called ‘hell’” (n. 1033).
“Eternal damnation”, therefore, is not attributed to God’s initiative because in his merciful love he can only desire the salvation of the beings he created. In reality, it is the creature who closes himself to his love. Damnation consists precisely in definitive separation from God, freely chosen by the human person and confirmed with death that seals his choice for ever. God’s judgement ratifies this state.
4. Christian faith teaches that in taking the risk of saying “yes” or “no”, which marks the human creature’s freedom, some have already said no. They are the spiritual creatures that rebelled against God’s love and are called demons (cf. Fourth Lateran Council, DS 800-801). What happened to them is a warning to us: it is a continuous call to avoid the tragedy which leads to sin and to conform our life to that of Jesus who lived his life with a “yes” to God.
Eternal damnation remains a real possibility, but we are not granted, without special divine revelation, the knowledge of whether or which human beings are effectively involved in it. The thought of hell — and even less the improper use of biblical images — must not create anxiety or despair, but is a necessary and healthy reminder of freedom within the proclamation that the risen Jesus has conquered Satan, giving us the Spirit of God who makes us cry “Abba, Father!” (Rm 8:15; Gal 4:6).
I would think Hot Air is more approiate.
The Altar - Rev 6:9, 8:3, 5; 9:13, 11:1, 14:18, 16:17
Vested priests - Rev 3:5, 3:18, 4:4, 7:13, 14, 22:14
Candles - Rev 4:5
Incense and Prayers of the Saints - Rev 5:8, 8:3, 8:4
Blood of the Lamb - Rev 7:15
Holy, Holy, Holy - Rev 4:8
Penitential Rite (repentance) - Rev. 2:5, 16, 21; 3:3; 16:11
Silent prayer after Communion - Rev 8:1
Invoking angels - Rev 5:11
Gloria - Rev 1:6, 4:9, 11, 5:12,13, 7:12, 11:13, 14:7, 15:4
Sign of the Cross - Rev 7:3-4, 11:1, 14:1, 22:4
Hallelujah - Rev 19:1, 3, 4, 6
Liturgical readings - Rev 5:1
Lamb of God Rev 5:12
Eucharist (Manna) - Rev 2:17
Mary - Rev 12:1-17
Relics of Saints under the Altar - Rev 6:9
“And there is no indication Matthias was chosen by Jesus but by 11 men who overstepped their authority.”
Nay, not so. Peter, speaking by holy spirit and acting as a prophet, explained the prophecy indicating Judas would be replaced. Evidently with God’s approval and direction the lot fell to Matthias, who is accepted as one of the twelve.
Soon after holy spirit produced “signs and portents through the apostles”, Matthias included, so their choice was confirmed as was their authority to make such a decision.
There after Matthias is recognized by Luke when he, writing under inspiration of God, spoke of “the twelve” at Acts 6:2.
Therefore the Scriptures do not support your contention that the apostles acted outside their authority.
It's almost as believable as "Biblical Flatutarian?"
The putitansmind website you quote from is vile depressing hell.
Gk Chesterton said it best when it came to a puritans mind....
"The most dangerous thing in this world is a Puritan who is broadening his mind. He is just like a barbarian who is broadening his empire.More and more things do, indeed,come under his consideration:but this only means more and more things come under his oppressing and depressing power."-Gk Chesterton
I respect Blessed Pope John Paul II and Blessed Fulton Sheen as well,it was there words.
Thanks for upholding Church teaching ,dear friend
"First you want to kill me, then you want to kiss me. Blow."
-- Ash, Army of Darkness
I do not believe it was a mistake. It was an action that epitomized the life of JPII. In that one spur of the moment action he clearly contrasted Christianity and Islam for all of the people of the world to see, not just Muslims or Christians.By showing an act of love JPII was showing his belief that love can overcome all. If we do not believe that God's love is almighty, how can we believe that the Father could create us, the Son redeem us and the Holy Spirit sanctify us?
You left out an important scripture:
There is nothing substantial in believing how you interpret the Bible,since you're a human.
- Hell is conscious torment.
Loss of the ability to love forever is real conscious torment and hell
That is what burns a soul
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Now extend that to all of the mainstream and multilocation denominations. Now extend that to all the independent churches with their own peculiar beliefs.
For example, there are over 400 independent churches in our community all with varying beliefs and doctrines. There is one God and one Faith. Where did they get theirs? How? If not from their navels and whims, where?
No, the RCC just changes it's doctrines en masse at councils where the church leadership gets together, changes it's collective mind on some issue, and declares it new doctrine and the old invalid.
You mean in the declaration of the Trinity and the Nicene Creed in 325 AD?
The only difference between what you're complaining about and what the Catholic church does is that when the Catholic church does it, they give it their own stamp of approval to validate it to themselves and then go on to act as if nothing is really any different.
The difference is that the Reformation ushered in the age where individual men at their own whims create churches of their own with their own made up doctrines and beliefs.
Are you saying that God failed? Are you saying that God wanted Paul to save Israel but failed?
Paul escaped from Jerusalem by the skin of his teeth because he made such a noxious ass of himself to the Jews that he formerly was such a champion of, that he was under a death threat. Acts is most instructive. It also instructs us that Paul cannot get the circumstances of his salvation (surely it must be more important than a simple casual day) straight between chapter 9 and chapter 22.
The 12 disciples were still in Jerusalem, doing exactly what they were told to do by Christ, preach the kingdom gospel to Israel first and then the rest of the nations. But they weren't getting far, Israel wasn't accepting it.
Are you saying that God failed?
Paul is describing to the Ephesians future eschatology - what they can expect and hope for when they live in Christ. This is not a done thing - it is description of a great future if they remain Christian and in Christ.
Let us go to the previous chapter, where Paul tells them of their expected life in Christ:
Ephesians 1: 18 May the eyes of (your) hearts be enlightened, that you may know what is the hope that belongs to his call, what are the riches of glory in his inheritance among the holy ones, 19 and what is the surpassing greatness of his power for us who believe, in accord with the exercise of his great might, 20 which he worked in Christ, raising him from the dead and seating him at his right hand in the heavens, 21 far above every principality, authority, power, and dominion, and every name that is named not only in this age but also in the one to come. 22 And he put all things beneath his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church, 23 which is his body, 11 the fullness of the one who fills all things in every way.
Paul continues in Chapter 2, telling them of what they can expect as long as they remain faithful.
Salvation is by grace through faith SO THAT NO MAN MAY BOAST. If works are part of it, it leaves room for man's boasting for his part in it. God then doesn't get all the glory.
Those bozos who declare themselves saved give God none of the glory; they arrogantly supersede the Judgement of Christ for their judgement of themselves.
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