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In Christ Alone (Happy reformation day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnTlIM5QgE ^ | Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7

In Christ Alone lyrics

Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm

What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand

In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save

?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live

There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again

And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ


TOPICS: Prayer; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: reformation; savedbygrace
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To: metmom
Yes, and I have noted the many varying differences among the catholic churches. I don't understand why , though, they are so opposed to this. Revelations speaks with detail about the various positions of each of the churches...all were in a differing place of growth or retreated, or were stuck. Catholic churches are really no different than Protestants when it comes to differences between their individual churches....some are closer to each other...others further apart. I think God leaves room for all to grow and develop within their church and why so important to go to one he leads us to

BTW I do follow this thread allot...but am in the busy season at work. Doing catch up here at home today and visting FR in between chores! Ha! I think I am addicted!

3,501 posted on 11/28/2010 4:42:34 PM PST by caww
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To: Kolokotronis
Interesting spelling of “Ancient of Days” in the upper picture

I wonder it that was a transitional stage (ο παλεο [των] ηεμερων) between ancient Greek (ο παλαιος των ημερων) and modern Greek (το παλαιο των ημερων)

The icon does look old but not ancient. Maybe it was some Serb attempting to write in Greek! Who else would leave out artciles! :)

3,502 posted on 11/28/2010 4:44:35 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: RnMomof7

I’m afraid to ask. :O)


3,503 posted on 11/28/2010 4:45:23 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: metmom; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww

“So much for the unity of Catholicism.”

The Church, sadly, is rent with schisms and has been ever since Pope Dioscorus of Alexandria refused to accept the dogmatic declaration of the two natures of Christ by the Council of Chalcedon in 451 and later when Rome went its own way in the 11th century.

“how many different flavors of Catholicism are there? 30,000 or so?”

Oh, no, not at all. There are basically three “flavors”, the Churches whose hierarchs are in communion with the Bishop of Rome, (what FR chooses to call “Catholic” churches), the Churches whose hierarchs are in communion with the Patriarchs of Constantinople, Antioch, Alexandria, Jerusalem, and Moscow (the Orthodox Churches) and the Oriental Orthodox Churches (the Non Chalcedonian Churches) whose hierarchs are likewise in communion with each other. Within each group there is an absolute identity of Faith; as between the groups, there is a greater or lesser degree of identity, with the Orthodox and Orientals, greater, with the Orthodox (or Oriental Orthodox) and the “Catholics” lesser.


3,504 posted on 11/28/2010 4:50:04 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis
Who else would substitute ai for e? Serbian mind don't understand the need for combination letters that sound like one letter.
3,505 posted on 11/28/2010 4:50:22 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50

that should be Serbian minds


3,506 posted on 11/28/2010 4:51:09 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: RnMomof7

Do you want the answer the nuns taught me? :)

“God made me to know Him, to love Him, and to serve Him in this world, and to be happy with Him for ever in the next.”

Still pretty good 50 years + later.


3,507 posted on 11/28/2010 4:54:31 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: metmom
how many different flavors of Catholicism are there? 30,000 or so?

Yeah. Exactly. And each flavor has at least 5 different accounts here at FreeRepublic!!! XD

See if you can get them all to give up their multiple accounts. That was funny when you did that last time!

3,508 posted on 11/28/2010 4:54:45 PM PST by getoffmylawn (The god of the sola scriptura Bahble Cults is the god of Evil wearing a cheap rubber Jesus mask.)
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To: HarleyD

LOL...LOL... now you do know the answer don’t you?? LOL Ohhh yes the Queen is also a ladder.. never ending blasphemy


3,509 posted on 11/28/2010 4:54:51 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: metmom
how many different flavors of Catholicism are there?

I think we are witnessing the 'nut' variety of Catholicism on FR. Never have I seen such craziness at their twisting Scriptures to 'fit in' and their attempt at making the RCC teachings/traditions valid according to Scriptures.

It makes me appreciate God's Word more and The Reformation.
3,510 posted on 11/28/2010 4:57:28 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: Kolokotronis; stfassisi
Do you want the answer the nuns taught me? :) “God made me to know Him, to love Him, and to serve Him in this world, and to be happy with Him for ever in the next.” Still pretty good 50 years + later.

Ahhh the Baltimore catechism response, also memorized by me (more than 50 years ago ) LOL

That is far closer than stfassisi answer

RN-””Why did God create man?””
Out of love for love with a free will to choose His love or reject it

There is actually a more biblical response although i think the baltimore catechism, so often snickered at these days , is true, as far as it goes ,it is less than complete ..

I am waiting for Stfrans answer :)

3,511 posted on 11/28/2010 5:05:06 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: RnMomof7
Does God change? What does the bible say about that ? Is He not the same yesterday, today and tomorrow?

Funny, that's pretty well what I posted. I further posted that it is a matter of misinterpretation of men.

"The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them." [Rm. 1:18-19]

Notice the change from the OT. Here, God is wrathful at impiety and wickedness. In the OT, God is wrathful at individuals. This is a failing of the children of the Reformation - to pick up that difference.

"What if God, wishing to show his wrath and make known his power, has endured with much patience the vessels of wrath made for destruction?" [Rm. 9:22]

A rhetorical question. What if?

"But if you do evil, be afraid, for it does not bear the sword without purpose; it is the servant of God to inflict wrath on the evildoer. Therefore, it is necessary to be subject not only because of the wrath but also because of conscience." [Rm. 13:4-5]

This is cherry picked in the middle of a general instruction of being loyal to the civil authorities.

No, wrong question .. what did Jesus do about it? He died on the cross to appease the wrath of God..

Let's have the Gospel verse to support this statement.

3,512 posted on 11/28/2010 5:23:16 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: kosta50
It's Ukrainian "Greek"-Catholic. Pretty scary, hey? :)

Are you saying that you guys need us as much as we need you?

3,513 posted on 11/28/2010 5:24:04 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: RnMomof7
to be the Mediator between God and man, the Prophet, Priest, and King, the Head and Savior of his church, the Heir of all things, and Judge of the world: unto whom he did from all eternity give a people, to be his seed, and to be by him in time redeemed, called, justified, sanctified, and glorified.

Would you say this is not true?

No, because the passage from the WCF is Arian heresy.

3,514 posted on 11/28/2010 5:27:44 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: RnMomof7; stfassisi

“Ahhh the Baltimore catechism response,...”

You got it, RNMom! We could never forget those lessons no matter how many years later, could we! Imagine what those Irish Sisters of Mercy thought when it was the Greek Orthodox kid with the Irish name who memorized that response first in the class! :)

I suppose the Biblical and Patristic answer is really more simple than the Catechism one. God made us to be in His image and also, I think more importantly, in His Likeness.


3,515 posted on 11/28/2010 5:48:46 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: blue-duncan; boatbums; stfassisi; getoffmylawn
Positing an all-knowing, all-loving, all-powerful, just God, which world would He create, 1. none at all, 2. non-free world of robots, 3. a free-world where we could not sin, 4. a free-world where we would sin but all would be saved, 5. a free-world where we would sin, and some would accept God’s salvation but the rest would be lost?

How about the World to Come and skip all the blood and guts?

3,516 posted on 11/28/2010 7:44:31 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: HarleyD
But, that aside, it's only a matter of time a musical is written about John Paul II....BTW-This seems like one of those things Alex probably has brought up before. He has that knack. :O)

ROTFL! You know me too well...
Onstage in Rome, a singing John Paul II [spend three hours with the singing, dancing JPII]

3,517 posted on 11/28/2010 7:49:16 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: OLD REGGIE; boatbums; momof7
Do you accept the Catholic doctrine of "free will".

No, because it breaks down in the "next" world, where the saved will be (1) either without free will, or (2) with free will but unable (or somehow not inclined) to commit sin. Either way, the free will is the first casualty. Why not just make man "not inclined" to sin and spare us the drama?

3,518 posted on 11/28/2010 7:52:28 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: presently no screen name
[Some people require no proof to believe a fantastic tale; but I do]

Yeah, kids are like that. Wasting time to find proof of a fantastic tale is truly juvenile.

No, the only thing juvenile is when rational grown up people believe in talking animals and magic, like children. Kids usually don't ask for proof. They just believe what grownups tell them. But where convincing is in order, it's quote easy to get kids to beileve in Santa (or anythign for that matter) with very little if any proof. A few presentes and a trick with a glass of milk and a cookie is enough to make them believers.

At least the kid have an excuse.

Christian faith is a 'sanctuary' to you? You might want to start all over, again, or just give up.

Yeah, a mental sancutary, imo—an escape, a hope, a wish, a desire, etc.

3,519 posted on 11/28/2010 8:05:33 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: presently no screen name
By your own words, you are saying you don't believe in God

If by "God" you mean the man-made deity, then you are right. Nothing so far has convinced me that what some groups claim to be "God" is really God.

So, no I don't believe in your God, but I am not saying there is no God.

3,520 posted on 11/28/2010 8:12:56 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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