We should get you an EL KABONG patch a la Left That Other Site's gif:
Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
In Christ Alone lyrics
Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;
In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm
What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand
In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save
?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live
There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again
And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ
All the sacraments of the Church are in the scripture, for starters. Catholic soteriology by grace through faith and conditional on good works is in the scripture. Obedience to bishops is in the scripture. Protestant distinctives, however, -- Bible Alone and Faith Alone are not in the scripture and contradict the scripture (James 2:14-26, 2 Tim 3:14-17).
The check is in the mail.
Liek for example your five solas are that, slogans. They are not theology. TULIP is a set of slogans. Now, some of these slogans are quite good, — there is nothing wrong for example with Grace Alone. But the Protestant method all revolves about such bumper sticker rhetoric. Mention the role of works in salvation and what do you guys roll out? “Aha you want to save yourself without Christ.” It is hard to argue against such childishness.
Your interest in the scripture is phoney too. There are too many prooftexts that work against you, so despite all the chest-beating about the Word of God, your actual arguments are all vague paraphrases, that break as soon as the actual scriptural text is examined.
Riiight. Like for example, "Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you" or "by works a man is justified; and not by faith only" or "Holy Ghost hath placed you bishops, to rule the church of God". Sure, all that you guys take exacccctly as written.
Not *Peter, the rock on which I will build my church....*???
Jesus sure puts Simon in his place. Refers to him by his given, pre-Christ days name.
He doesn't say *Peter, lord it over them.*
Christ condemned learning about the life of His mother?
I can tell you the traditions Christ condemned and why. He condemned a 15c charlatan like Luther coming along and turning the Word of God upside down. That is "traditions of men". Luther, Calvin, Knox are these men, liars and fathers of lies.
No they don't contradict Scripture because there's no Scripture to tell us that we have to add tradition to Scripture and there's no Scripture that tells us that works save anyone.
The word *trinity* isn't in Scripture and the Catholic church teaches that.
The term *pope* isn't in Scripture and the Catholic church teaches that.
The ideas of the immaculate conception, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the assumption of Mary are not in Scripture and the Catholic church teaches that.
Your argument that *sola Scriptura* and faith alone aren't in the Bible and contradicts Scripture is laughable in light of all that the Catholic church teaches as true that can't be found in the Bible and outright contradicts it.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
I rather like point # 4 since it seemed so familiar:
“(4) take out the promises and rewards religions make, especially the afterlife, and see how many people stay faithful for the glory of God alone.”
This was said of Job too,
“Then Satan the LORD, and Doth Job God for nought?
Hast not thou made an about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast the work of his hands, and his substance is in the land.
But put thine hand now, and all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.” (Job 1:10,11)
The more I read the EO believer's posts, the more I realize how right the Reformers were in rejecting both East and West so-called orthodoxy.
My paste didn’t stick, read:
Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased1 in the land.
But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. (Job 1:9,10,11)
We should get you an EL KABONG patch a la Left That Other Site's gif:
In think you are being fast and loose with Christ’s assertions.
He was emphatically harsh with !!!!TRADITIONS!!!! of man and with bureaurcratic hierarchical
RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, GROUPS.
I suppose you could call the Lord’s Supper a tradition.
My reading of the NT is that Christ went out of His way to avoid all hint and trappings of
STRUCTURED, !!!!TRADITION!!!! BOUND, HIERARCHICAL, BUREAUCRATIC RELIGION AND RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS.
Paul wasn’t that thrilled with such either.
I am not going to tell you what branch of Christianity I follow.
BUT:
I love Jesus!
I Love The Gospels!
I Love The Epistles of Paul!
I Love Christians!
I Love The Children Of Israel!
I wish you would all stop devouring each other. It Grieves my Spirit. Especially when the muzzies would love to swallow us all up alive. (sigh)
Oh well. I am not going to quell a 500 year old dedate with a post to FR.
Carry on.
True. True.
Thx. Thx.
Maybe you haven’t noticed that I’ve greatly curtailed my brick bats sorts of religious postings.
"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth'. But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away. You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy'. But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you. That you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect." [Matthew 5:38-48].
Christ clearly demonstrates that whatever may have been said in the past, He is now teaching something new. The Incarnation changed everything. Among other things, now mankind had a "mind" with which to better understand God. If we are to become like God, to be His sons, we are to emulate Him as Christ tells us He really is and we shall be perfect and it would appear that what the perfect person displays, bb, is nothing more or less than love...and so that person has fulfilled his or her created purpose, to be not only the image of God, but also His likeness.
As opposed to the intellectually superior, yet spiritually inferior Westminster Confession of Faith?
Well, you know, the REAL enemy should make us “circle the wagons”.
Funny that I, an INDIAN , should be sayin’ that! hahaha
True. True.
And, some of us do, even now, with folks who focus on the priorities of the Gospel and God’s Biblical priorities.
I think you did a pretty good job...
What I don't get is how can you believe some of the scriptures are true but not all...How could you believe any of it is true??? Perhaps the parts you don't believe are actually true, and the parts you believe are not true...
Joh 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Seems to me that if we follow Jesus and are in Jesus, we will know whether the scriptures are true or not...
Amen. Good Night!
See You in the Garden tomorrow!
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