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In Christ Alone (Happy reformation day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnTlIM5QgE ^ | Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7

In Christ Alone lyrics

Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm

What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand

In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save

?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live

There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again

And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ


TOPICS: Prayer; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: reformation; savedbygrace
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To: smvoice

Intereting. .Mary guilty of polyandry ???


2,341 posted on 11/17/2010 6:43:18 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: smvoice

Intereting. .Mary guilty of polyandry ???


2,342 posted on 11/17/2010 6:43:30 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: boatbums; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; caww; count-your-change; ...

Funny thing is, Catholics like to portray Luther as a Protestant from the start who intended to start his own religion.

They conveniently over look the fact that he WAS indeed a Catholic priest. His wanting to see the Catholic church cleansed from the corruption that infested it in his day is not much different than those Catholics here on FR who want to see the Catholic church cleansed from the corruption which is infesting it today.


2,343 posted on 11/17/2010 6:46:03 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: smvoice; bkaycee; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg; presently no screen name; roamer_1

Quite an absurd conjecture, totally not supported by Scripture in any way, which is just SOP for the RCC.

But that won’t stop them.

I honestly don’t recall specifically hearing that as a Catholic. I’m not sure if any others raised Catholic remember that either.


2,344 posted on 11/17/2010 6:53:17 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix

Hey the Mormons have a similar belief they think “the heavenly father” came down and impregnated Mary


2,345 posted on 11/17/2010 6:57:49 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: metmom; smvoice

I do not think that is any kind of official doctrine or teaching..that poster was just trying to say all Mary’s birth canal belonged to God


2,346 posted on 11/17/2010 7:00:37 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: metmom; smvoice

I do not think that is any kind of official doctrine or teaching..that poster was just trying to say all Mary’s birth canal belonged to God


2,347 posted on 11/17/2010 7:00:45 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: smvoice
I think the reason it is so important for Mary to have remained a virgin, is because, according to mlizzy, on another thread, The Holy Spirit is her husband. Oh, mzlizzy, where are you that you can expound on this?
It's important when quoting (or interpreting) to do so accurately [you have misquoted me]. Joseph was Mary's husband on earth. The Holy Spirit is her spouse. Words mean something, smvoice. You were the one to expound on that just a day or so ago.
2,348 posted on 11/17/2010 7:04:33 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Natural Law; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
“...(Mary is) the unique bridal, permanent helpmate and associate of Christ, who is the Head of the whole Church and world, in the entire work of redemption...” Fr. J. Kentenich, in Der Marianische Priester, p 38 (1941).

Mary? You mean His Mother? Now the *bride* of Christ, as in His spouse as an individual?

The church is the bride of Christ. There is NOTHING in Scripture that indicates that Mary is His bride and mother of the church as an individual.

For that matter, there's nothing in Scripture that says the church HAS a mother.

Through her divine maternity, Mary in a certain way entered the divine family as a spouse who enters a royal home. With regard to the Father she became the first born daughter: I came out of the mouth of the Most High, the first-born before all creatures (Ecclus 24:5). With regard to the Son, she was a mother; with regard to the Holy Spirit, she was a bride." Saint Alphonsus Liguori, in The Glories and Virtues of Mary, p. 43.

Mary, Jesus mother, now become His bride, and Mary, God's (alleged) spouse now becomes His daughter.

Words fail me.....

2,349 posted on 11/17/2010 7:04:35 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RnMomof7; metmom
“Let us turn our gaze to Mary, Christ’s first disciple, Spouse of the Holy Spirit and Mother of the Church, who was with the Apostles at the first Pentecost, so that she will help us to learn from her fiat docility to the voice of the Spirit.” Pope John Paul II, in his speech to the “World Congress of Ecclesial Movements and New Communities,” on May 27, 1998. Let us praise and thank the Holy Spirit, Who took her for His spouse. "R. Amen. Say an 'Our Father'." St. Joseph Calasanctius, Found in the Raccolta, quoted in "Mary:The Crown of Twelve Stars".

I don't know.. this was posted by Natural Law in response to the question.

2,350 posted on 11/17/2010 7:08:29 AM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: metmom

The truth always comes out...after a person is attacked for giving it...it dribbles out.


2,351 posted on 11/17/2010 7:10:46 AM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: mlizzy
So sorry, mlizzy, the Holy Spirit IS HER SPOUSE.

Is that better? Does that change the meaning of this vile idea?

See post 2320 on this thread for more information on your Church's beliefs and teachings in regards to 'Mary's spouse IS the Holy Spirit'. It's not a new epiphany for Mark Mallett or you. It's been in the Catholic teachings for awhile.

2,352 posted on 11/17/2010 7:17:56 AM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Natural Law; RnMomof7; Quix; mlizzy

Thank you, Natural Law for posting this.


2,353 posted on 11/17/2010 7:21:38 AM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: boatbums

Now now.

Casting aspersions on recreational hyperbole is no fun.

Keep that up and we’ll have to take out

“brood of vipers”

“white washed tombs”

“sons of satan”

from the New Testament.

/sar


2,354 posted on 11/17/2010 7:23:52 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: presently no screen name

Actually, Scripture indicates that all that is good is from God.


2,355 posted on 11/17/2010 7:24:40 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: RnMomof7

I know.

Sigh.


2,356 posted on 11/17/2010 7:26:38 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mlizzy; smvoice

mlizzy: “Joseph was Mary’s husband on earth. The Holy Spirit is her spouse. Words mean something, smvoice. “

Oh well, of course... Now I see it...

/slaps head....

There’s a HUGE difference between *spouse* (of a woman) and *husband*. How silly of me....

husband
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/husband
1. : a male partner in a marriage

spouse
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spouse
: married person : husband, wife


2,357 posted on 11/17/2010 7:38:28 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: smvoice; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

We should start a thread . . .

We could start a pool about when and what new dogma will be promulgated.

“PROBABLE SOON TO BE NEW DOGMA OF THE RCC”

1. ET’S ARE NEUTRAL OR BENIGN

2. ET’S DON’T NEED SALVATION OR ARE CANDIDATES FOR SALVATION THROUGH CHRIST.

3. Father, Son, Spirit were just mass propaganda labels for the sheeple for the real power in heaven—Mary [!WRONG!]

4. Mary is coming again riding on a White Hanky slaying dark forces [Proddys according to the Vatican and their Islamic cohorts] right and left with her eyelash flutters.

5. Mary’s 1000 year millenial reign of Peace will put things in order according to her sensibilities wherein every woman will enjoy 2 hubbies.

6. Mary will begin a new REVERSE TRANSSUBSTANTIATION . . . turning road kill flesh back into wheat and grape juice in behalf of vegetarianism and in memory of Bambi.

7. ???

/satire


2,358 posted on 11/17/2010 7:43:57 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom
lol while slamming head against the wall...

Is there NO END to the parsing of words and nit-picking while trying to ignore the giant elephant in the room??? It's just amazing to watch. lol!

2,359 posted on 11/17/2010 7:44:35 AM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: annalex; Natural Law; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; smvoice; Diamond; ...
Not ordinarily, but a temple virgin dedicated to celibacy would be married off to an older man, typically a widower, so that she can be taken care of economically. The Protoevangelium describes just that, and whether or ot you think it applies to Our Lady, it clearly was not in itself an outlandish idea back in 2c.

“I know not man”, she said. A woman intending to have children with her fiancee does not respond like that.

You gotta love it when comdemned heretical documents like the Protoevanelium of James are cited to support so-called dogma.

1. According to the Decretum Gelasianum, the Protoevangelium of James is heretical and was “recognized by heretics or schismatics (and) the Catholic and Apostolic Roman Church does not in any way receive; of these we have thought it right to cite below some which have been handed down and which are to be avoided by catholics.”

2. The author LIES in claiming to be James, stepbrother of Jesus Christ. Meaning that the Catholic Church accepts the word of a liar.

3.That Jesus Christ saved from Herod’s armies by hiding him in a trough (the Bible narrative in Matthew 1:13 – 16 makes it clear that Christ, Joseph, and Mary left long before there was a reason to hide).

4. From the age of 3 to 12, Mary was fed by the hand of an angel.

Sure, its an officially declared heretical/apochryphal book who's author is not who he says he is, written 120 years after the facts, other than that, its amazingly accurate. lol

2,360 posted on 11/17/2010 7:48:18 AM PST by bkaycee
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