Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
In Christ Alone lyrics
Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;
In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm
What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand
In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save
?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live
There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again
And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ
And further, if JPII’s smooching of the Koran is showing love for his enemies, when will one of your popes kiss the “Institutes of the Christian Relgion?”
touche'
By the time the Spanish Inquisition began under the Catholic Isabella and Ferdinand, hundreds of thousands of Jews had been driven out of Spain and those remaining forced into baptism as Catholics, the “conversos”.
Sextus IV issued an order authorizing the Inquisition and put it under control of the bishops.
Since those accused had their property confiscated both the monarchy and the Catholic Church had s strong profit motive for condemning Jews to the Inquisition and in today money hundreds of millions of dollars worth of property was stolen and ended up in the coffers of the state and state Catholic Church.
“It is unlikely that modern states would pass similar laws against heresy.”
You must never have learned history.
Now now . . .
Sounds like you’re casting aspersions
on the
GREAT hallowed
!!!!TRADITION!!!!
Of dogma by White Hanky . . .
Once a year . . . on Halloween,
Mary and the Great Pumpkin collaborate to refine, propagate, pontificate, profligate and otherwise concoct and disperse new idolatrous, blasphemous heresies pretending to be old wive’s tales from the crypt as though they were freshly minted in Heaven.
Mary distributes them atop all the large Pumpkins and the faithful sheeple collect them before midnight on Halloween for publishing in the Vatican paper . . . not realizing they serve as quite a contrast alongside the more credible articles on the Vatican’s latest assertions about UFO’s.
If the White Hankys with the new dogmas scribbled on them are not collected before midnight on Halloween, they turn into pixie dust. Black pixie dust. Makes a real mess when trying to carve a decent Jack-O-Lantern or make a decent pumpkin pie.
Perhaps the most welcome thing about such irrational idiocies is that it makes so many of the RC's and particularly the more rabid RC's look like utter
REVISIONIST BRAVE NEW WORLD/ 1984/ MARXIST/ . . . OUT-OF-THE-REMOTEST-TOUCH-WITH-REALITY TYRANTS OF THOUGHT AND PSEUDO-REALITY . . . as well as purveyors of the worst of RELIGIOUS charlatanism.
The Vatican Alice In Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling makes other even very fringe "Christian" groups look absolutely orthodox by comparison. Fascinating.
What have I said that is revisionist or untrue? Please be specific.
, and permits people like annalex to call for a return to the Inquisition.
Why are you against taking the necessary steps to oust the homosexual bishops?
I know. I know teacher, call on me . . .
When the holy water freezes over?
It's more than annoying the distortions which occur from those who attempt to justify their positions....and some of those positions are just sick...that mindset mimics those who basically called for the Inquistion in the first place. No different than the Moslems call in Jihad IMO.
lol. "The "necessary steps" to "oust the bishops" are right in front of your eyes. Even Donald Trump knows how to do it.
YOU'RE FIRED!
Read the link I offered you. The Inquisition was NOT "only concerned with public, baptized Catholics." Nor were "Jews and Muslims outside of its scope."
Yes, and let’s be realistic. the only reason for this kind of lunacy is politics and power. No better way to get rid of troublesome types (people who refuse to think the same as Rome)than hold an inquisition. the ones who can will flee the country, but the ones who cant flee are massacred. then the little problem is gone, plus their property, wealth, businesses are now taken over by the victors. Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, they all learned well from history.
Yep, that is surely the way it looks from many of my interactions in the real world too. You really are doing a great job doing the heavy lifting on this thread. Thanks for all the pings.
That did not happen until 14 years after the start of the Inquisition.
those remaining forced into baptism as Catholics, the "conversos".
Nobody was forced to convert. Those who did knew they would be under the authority of the Church.
the monarchy and the Catholic Church had s strong profit motive for condemning Jews to the Inquisition
By "Jews" you are referring to voluntary Catholic converts and their children (often by marriage with non-converts)? Jewish Converts were judged by the same standard as any other Catholic. The Spanish Inquisition was very scrupulous and the vast majority of people investigated were never convicted. Those convicted were guilty of working to destroy the church and state. Many Bishops and top government officials fell into this category.
in today money hundreds of millions of dollars worth of property was stolen and ended up in the coffers of the state and state Catholic Church.
LOL. Yes this must seem shocking by today's standards when the rich (especially bankers) are not prosecuted for breaking the law. Wealth provides the means to bribe politicians. If rich gangsters are not taken down, they will corrupt society. In Catholic Spain, the rich had to follow the same rules as everybody else. That is why the Inquisition enjoyed huge popular support among the middle class and poor.
Spot on and Amen! satan loves DIY Christianity.
It is a pity that some reverse this and lower Christ in order to elevate themselves or others who left this earth long ago.
Could you show us where Christ instituted a priesthood in the NT ? Where He instituted a papacy?
This theology is made up out of Whole cloth
Could you point us to the infallible teachings on Jesus's teachings on apostolic succession, the papacy, immaculate conception, assumption, 7 sacraments...etc.. I am interested in their infallible roots
Well he did flog himself, does that take care of it?
No bishop can be deposed from office without a full and intensive investigation, i.e. inquisition.
Read the link I offered you. The Inquisition was NOT "only concerned with public, baptized Catholics." Nor were "Jews and Muslims outside of its scope."
Your selective quoting of me is deceitful. I said "The Spanish Inquisition was only concerned with public, baptized Catholics. Jews and Muslims were outside of its scope." Your source says that Jews were persecuted in France but does not dispute what I said.
If John Paul II was in charge, the "Holy" Inquisition would never touch him. He is, after all, the leader of the Church. What the Inquisition really advocates is those enemies of the Pope to be "cleansed". So, in a very real sense the Inquisition (not withstanding the Jews and Muslims who were burned at the state) really got rid of the "good" Catholics who disagreed with the Church while reinforcing the bad. By nature, if you disagreed with the Church's right to have an Inquisition, then you must be a heretic subject to the Inquisition. Instead of purging itself of corrupt people at the top, the Church reinforced corruption while eliminating true believers.
Those who were unhappy with Catholic doctrine who weren't murdered left. Hence you see the Orthodox leaving in 1000AD, you see people leaving in the 13th century with the Church imposed requirement to fight in "Holy" Wars, and again the Reformers leaving in 1500AD because of the false doctrine. All the while Catholics keep yelling they are the true Church. A more modern approach for Protestants is that people who are not happy just simply pick up their share of the denomination and walk out; not unlike the Lutherans or Presbyterians. Unfortunately, this isn't an option for the "true" Church.
You will never cleanse the ranks of bishops and priests because the whole system is corrupted. What are you going to do about the homosexual Cardinals? And one day, probably not in the too distance future, you will most likely have a homosexual Pope. Is it any wonder that most Catholics today are Catholics in name only?
The art of misdirection works only with the "innocent". I have learned to expect a change of subject when the "apologist" is confronted with an apparent contradiction. May we return to your claim concerniing a "brother" of Jesus and his mother being named?
(annalex) "She did not have any other children. "Brothers" of Christ are indeed mentioned, but, curious thing, every time a "brother" of Jesus is mentioned by name, his mother also is mentioned and she is not Mary."
MATTHEW - NAB
13:55 Is he not the carpenter's son? Is not his mother named Mary and his brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?
As Bill O'Reilly would say "tell me where I am going wrong"? It appears to me that "brother" and his mother "Mary" are mentioned in the same verse. Where is my error? Were the people thinking of another carpenter's son?
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