[marshmallow]

What he means by web-based McCarthyism is what John L Allen (of the National Catholic Reporter) calls the “Catholic Taliban”. Allen’s explanation of this term was recently spelled out to an audience at the University of Texas. It was necessary, Allen said, to strike “a balance between two extremes”. This is how he described these extremes: “On the one extreme lies what my friend and colleague George Weigel correctly terms ‘Catholicism Lite’, meaning a watered-down, sold-out form of secularised religiosity, Catholic in name only. On the other is what I call ‘Taliban Catholicism’, meaning a distorted, angry form of the faith that knows only how to excoriate, condemn, and smash the TV sets of the modern world....

Uh........so let's see if I understand this correctly.

You sit Catholics in the pews and then subject them to loony liturgies, heretical homilies and lousy catechesis. You tell them that the Catholicism which their parents practiced is history and they need to "get with it". You force them to watch while priests break their vows, nuns throw away their religious habits and become ecologists and the Church is turned upside down.

Rinse and repeat as necessary for...........ohhhhhhhh........say about forty years!.

They then get to watch as their children lose their faith and entire dioceses are bankrupted by the antics of the lavender mafia.

Can you say "laity abuse"??

Now you mean to tell me that after all that, lay Catholics actually start to get angry???

Amazing!

Who would have thunk it!!

No, no, no, John..........this is not Taliban Catholicism. This is Vatican II Catholicism. You know that tired cliche which we've been hearing for the past 40-odd years about how Vatican II was all about getting the lay people "involved"??

Well it's happening. They are "getting involved". They're taking up arms against those who've been trying to destroy the Church. Dontcha love it??!! They're blogging and making their voices heard.

OK, so this isn't exactly what the liberals and radicals had in mind with their "spirit of Vatican II" shtick but hey,............it's all good, right?

[markomalley]

OK, so this isn't exactly what the liberals and radicals had in mind with their "spirit of Vatican II" shtick but hey,............it's all good, right?

I will have to keep that comment readily available the next time some aging priest berates me for being a stodgy "übertraddie" and inflexible

(Mind you, I am not an übertraddie by any means...)

[Salvation]

**Well it’s happening. They are “getting involved”. They’re taking up arms against those who’ve been trying to destroy the Church. Dontcha love it??!! They’re blogging and making their voices heard.

OK, so this isn’t exactly what the liberals and radicals had in mind with their “spirit of Vatican II” shtick but hey,............it’s all good, right?**

Chuckle, chuckle. You nailed it! God bless!

[Salvation]

SOMETIMES John Allen is good, but I think he forgot his meds here.

[Pope Pius XII]

There’s a several private prophecies that point to stuff like this. We haven’t seen anything yet. It’s going to get worse before it gets better.

[mas cerveza por favor]

They are "getting involved". They're taking up arms against those who've been trying to destroy the Church. Dontcha love it??!! They're blogging and making their voices heard. OK, so this isn't exactly what the liberals and radicals had in mind with their "spirit of Vatican II" shtick but hey,............it's all good, right?

No, no, no, you don't understand. The people are empowered to take over priest jobs at the altar (especially women), demand their rights of contraception, and have freedom to vote pro-abortion. They are NOT to question the new spirit of Vatican II in any way.