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Church: Mormons can't lead Scouts
Charlotte Observer ^ | Oct. 19, 2010 | Tim Funk

Posted on 10/19/2010 8:21:21 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: UriÂ’el-2012
"And how is that not a non sequitur ?"

because it was completely approps.

141 posted on 10/19/2010 10:52:42 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: reaganaut

“Mormonism is a ninteenth century invention based upon the teachings of Alexander Campbell...”

Absolutely wrong. Alexander Campbell was the polar opposite of Mormonism and he exposed it. Read this article by Campbell himself: http://www.lds-mormon.com/campbell.shtml


142 posted on 10/19/2010 10:52:54 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Again, I understand that verse, but it doesn’t related to a organizational decision.

Mormons have no knowledge of the G-d of Israel, you do understand that right?


143 posted on 10/19/2010 10:53:57 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Colofornian

“I have a picture of Jesus in my living room.”
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Looking very much like the picture they also have of Joey Smith in their living room...


144 posted on 10/19/2010 10:55:31 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Wondered how long it would be before you would grace this thread with your presence. When can we expect the Shrew? Have you not twittered her yet?


146 posted on 10/19/2010 10:57:04 AM PDT by donozark (43 years of therapy made me the man I am today....)
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To: donozark
I thought Eden in Iraq?

When Adam and Eve were ejected
from Eden they went to the East of Eden.

Most likely to Iraq.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
147 posted on 10/19/2010 10:57:25 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Tennessee Nana


149 posted on 10/19/2010 10:57:37 AM PDT by colorcountry ("The power of facts is much greater than the power of argument.")
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To: Colofornian

The Stokes were told their sons were welcome to join, and that they could volunteer. But as practicing Mormons, they couldn’t be leaders.
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Thats a better deal than the mormons give Christian families...

Non-mormon boys cant join the mormon packs..


150 posted on 10/19/2010 10:58:51 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: donozark

Try again. Go back and re-read our convo.

I made a comment about the wife being upset because they don’t consider her Christian even though she has a picutre of Jesus on her wall.

You responded with some Christians have pictures of Jesus on their wall.

Then we discussed if Mormons are Christians. I argued NO because of their beliefs, you stated that was just my opinion (which it is not) and NOW you are changing the subject.

BSA also recognized other Non Christian groups, just because Moromons are in BSA doesn’t make them Christian anymore than a muslim in BSA would be a Christian.

Mormons are NOT Christian based upon their beliefs.

And, yes, I agree you are confused.


151 posted on 10/19/2010 10:59:24 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Ripliancum

As you’re probably aware, there are plenty of ways to get involved so you too can have a blast. One of the easiest is to offer to drive to and from the outings. ;^)

I’ve found that some accept the calling without realizing what they’re expected to do, or even how to do it.

I’ve talked with many leaders and plead with them to create a “continuity book” that has as much starting information as they can cram into a 3 inch 3 ring binder. Names, phone numbers, websites, training courses to take/attend, manuals, etc.

This would at least give the new SM/ASMs a fighting chance to be somewhat successful.

The training problem is one of my peeves. We’ve reached out to many LdS units in our District and offered training or notify them when training is taking place and very few respond or attend. I’ve gotten to the point where I have LdS Scouters as District trainers and send them out to individual wards to get the training done. We’ve had some minor success.

We’re running at about 30% trained, up from about 20% a year or so ago, for LdS leaders, but it’s not rising fast enough IMO. It’s tough when many get turned over quickly.

As you said, it depends on the people. But there are some small steps that can be taken to help their programs. We’re still trying. It’s for the boys afterall, they’re the ones with the most to gain/lose.


152 posted on 10/19/2010 11:01:31 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: donozark; restornu

When can we expect the Shrew? Have you not twittered her yet?
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Resty will show up when she wants to...

As for Twitter...

I dont do Twitter...

Nor FaceAcheBook...


153 posted on 10/19/2010 11:02:23 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Foolishness. Where does it say that? Besides in your own closed mind?


154 posted on 10/19/2010 11:02:23 AM PDT by donozark (43 years of therapy made me the man I am today....)
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To: donozark; restornu

When can we expect the Shrew? Have you not twittered her yet?
______________________________________

Resty will show up when she wants to...

As for Twitter...

I dont do Twitter...

Nor FaceAcheBook...


155 posted on 10/19/2010 11:02:30 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: donozark

I never said the Catholic church hasn’t covered up abuse, they have. I was responding to the Ken’s comment about leaving the Catholics for the Mormons. Mormonism is just as guility as the Catholics.

Frying pan into the fire. At least Catholics believe traditional Christian doctrine.

Same can’t be said for the LDS.


156 posted on 10/19/2010 11:02:53 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Tennessee Nana
"Non-mormon boys cant join the mormon packs."

Sorry Nana, I have to disagree here.

157 posted on 10/19/2010 11:03:54 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: reaganaut

Thank you. (I think?)


158 posted on 10/19/2010 11:04:00 AM PDT by donozark (43 years of therapy made me the man I am today....)
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To: Raider Sam; Ripliancum; SZonian
Why in the world is the Church deciding who can be a leader in the Scouts.... I think the church is really over stepping its bounds here. Also, the Scouts dont require any specific belief in God, just that you believe God exists. You can be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Universalist, Deist or anything you want. You just have to believe in a higher power.

So you think that if a person applying for a leadership position puts down that he is a member of a Metropolitan Community Church and believes in the god of that church, that he'd be eligible as a Boy Scout leader?

Nope. The MCC is a church catering to homosexuals. Boy Scouts of America tends to frown on that.

Now that's a national standard. Since churches are legally responsible for what goes on inside their doors and on campouts, the 'Scouts leave it up to churches to filter its leadership.

Ripliancum has already said on this thread that the LDS church treats the BS as an adjunct part of the church; and that it's integral to what the church does (substitute youth program). So if they treat it as a "ministry," on what grounds are you objecting that the Presbyterians do as well?

Hence, Mormons in effect treat it as part of their "calling" and an extension of their priesthood roles. And this church likewise treats it as ministry. Don't forget that all ministry is not simply formal ministry...and that a lot of informal interaction goes on between leaders and scouts/cubs, especially on outings.

Also, just even who a church sanctions as a leader sends a message to kids. If a Christian church is telling the world that a polytheist, necro-baptizing, protective underwear-weearing, cemetery-record obsessive is "the" key to a "faith life" then what kind of a message are our kids getting?

159 posted on 10/19/2010 11:04:43 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: donozark

Its not me that is “closed”

It is the mormon CEOs that decided to be exclusive...

So as you would say your mormon CEOs are “foolish”

Why dont you dare get in their faces if you dont like it ???

Oh yeah there is the unconservative “sustaining” that you have to do...

Oh well

Never mind...


160 posted on 10/19/2010 11:05:52 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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