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To: delacoert

Forget the survey. I remember when the changes took place. The real impetus for the changes was an investiagaton by their leaders into Satanic Ritual Abuse and flashbacks during the temple Endowment as shown by this memo (verified by news outlets at the time to the LDS church). The silence on this matter and the changing of the supposedly ‘eternal’ temple ceremonies was a huge discussion in Utah in the early 1990’s.

The Glen Pace Memo:

http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no80.htm


20 posted on 10/14/2010 3:25:34 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

Ping to #20. Worth a read at the link.


23 posted on 10/14/2010 3:29:50 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

absolutely creepy


38 posted on 10/14/2010 5:57:58 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: reaganaut; All
Having an understanding of ritual abuse I found the Glen pace Memo is pretty much accurate in regards to the dissociation issue...... Many occult members go thru a “desensitization” to the natural fear and discomfort they experience in the rituals performed though are not aware it is desensitization because it's presented from the perspective that to “gain” what is ahead for them they must “push past the fear”. They are pre-programmed to believe their “fear” is the problem.

What new members rarely understand is that the fear they experience is an inner warning designed by God within us and should not be pushed past..rather heeded that what they are doing or about to do is wrong and most often dangerous to their very soul.

In Mormonism the person is very slowly mislead...inf fact just as in the occults they are told to decide for themselves...read for themselves, (of course it's Mormon literature, same as the occults offer their literature to initiates), the patterns used by Mormonism are the same to entice and deceive the initiate. Who unfortunately has already been encouraged to get in touch with “feeling” they have them convinced need to be expressed. Same with occults...they lock on to the “feeling” aspects.

I could go on about the similarities...but the dissociative aspect does occur as one goes thru the rituals...that includes those who go thru the Freemasonry Rituals. Most experience some pretty strong negatives about what they are doing and what is being done to them as they go thru the rites. ..but most also have an inner debate that they can “get thru this” to the other side and just get the membership they desire. Further they know others have gone thru these as well, and since a predominately male organization it isn't very macho to resist or show that discomfort in the presence of powerful men in society.

We are designed with the ability to disassociate...it is Gods way of helping us get thru trama and traumatic experiences and why people can't remember well the details. Be it a car accident or enduring war camps. The human psychic can only handle so much and when that is reached,( and varies for individuals), the mind will indeed “leave” the situation.

39 posted on 10/14/2010 6:24:56 PM PDT by caww
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To: reaganaut

wow!


43 posted on 10/14/2010 8:18:06 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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