Posted on 10/12/2010 9:09:28 AM PDT by Godzilla
Numerous critics claim that LDS religion is blasphemous and even Satanic because we allegedly think we will become gods. They say we try to rob God and Christ of their glory, the same dark sin that caused Lucifer to be cast to hell in Isaiah 14. When the critics make these claims, they never explain what LDS doctrine really is and what it is not. We absolutely do not believe that we will ever be independent of God or no longer subject to Him. We do not believe that we will take away His glory, but we only add to it by following Christ. For us, there is and always will be a need to be subject to God the Eternal Father, the Almighty God, the "God of gods and Lord of lords," as Deuteronomy 10:17 puts it. He is the One whom we worship and always will worship.
(Excerpt) Read more at jefflindsay.com ...
The author of this article, though being a mormon, does not speak authoratatively for the mormon church. He twists and misrepresents the Orthodox doctrine of 'theosis' and even stoops to relying upon the post-apostalic church fathers mormons denounce for creating the 'apostasy' to support the concept of men becoming gods.
Enjoy the freedom of the Free Republic town square to discuss these concepts without the artificial constraints that were attempted in the earlier thread.
Ping to open discussion of the topic.
You folks are welcome to openly discuss you side in this thread. Let the court of public opinion decide the merits of lds doctrine.
Whoa! I’ll lurk, thanks.
How could anyone really rob God of anything? Especially since He knows what someone is going to do.
I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:6-9
more than welcome.
if you want to discuss your poor concept of God - start another thread. If you want to discuss the topic above, then you are welcome.
Not only one other "gospel", but two others as well - Doctrines and covenants and Pearl of great price (which includes the bogusly translated egyptian papyrus of a pagan burial prayer).
Jim
My wife/kids and I recently moved to Utah and I have read those verses over and over since we got here. Paul does an excellent job of summing up every other pseudo Christian religion out there.
Knowledge is power as well as knowing what you stand for and not falling for anything false. Stories of non-mormons living in mormon country tell of a lot of hostility toward those who reject the restored gospel living in their midst. Pray things are better for you and your family.
If Jeff Lindsay is your apologetic source, and that’s enough to satisfy you, you’re in an information vacuum.
There’s a whole lot you don’t know.
When the Holy Spirit is not welcome I am not interested!
Only in the ecumenical thread is the presents of the Holy spirit welcome.
One of the RM seems to perfers leaving the door open enough to continue to stir the pot in his version of Ecumenical there is no place for the Holy Ghost on FR where good people can strive for greater mutual respect, toleration, and co-operation among the world religions.
Thus, ecumenism is the promotion of unity or cooperation between distinct religious groups or denominations of Christianity.
Ecumenism is distinguished from and should not be misused to mean interfaith pluralism.
The interfaith movement strives for greater mutual respect, toleration, and co-operation among the world religions.
Interfaith dialogue between representatives of diverse faiths, does not necessarily intend reconciling their adherents into full, organic unity with one another but simply to promote better relations.
I am not the one who says that Joseph Smith, Jr., will sit next to Jesus when we reach heaven with both of them deciding if we’re worthy of heaven . . . the Mormon religion says that.
It’s patent nonsense that the Mormons are now telling us that they don’t believe in thousands and thousands of gods . . . it’s their own doctrine that says that . . . not the Bible’s.
Sorry . . . it doesn’t fly. Mormonism is a man-made cult with some rather bizarre beliefs, such as the planet Kolab, etc. That’s their doctrine . . . not mine.
I won’t discuss what “Mormons” believe, but I’d be happy to discuss what Mormonism teaches. It teaches that “God the Father” was once like us, and He himself has his own “God His Father”, who has his own, and so on.
It teaches that a man on this earth can aspire to the same “God the Father” status with future worlds.
So you decide if mormonism teaches that mormons can or will become “gods”.
Well lurk, this is a repost of a thread topic manipulated over the weekend to discourage open discussion. Lindsay is a popular source of apolgetics for many lds, however his apologetic is weaker than a wet noodle on this subject - particularly as he tries to 'adjust' the lds doctrine of progression to godhood to something more 'mainline' Christian.
Gee, how does that comport with the Bible’s very clear description of God as existing always?
>>Gee, how does that comport with the Bible’s very clear description of God as existing always?<<
Exactly. ;)
But that was not my main point. My main point is a response to “does mormonism teach that mormons can become gods”.
I do get your point...
but it still was remarkably funny that a threat that starts with the high-minded: “Enjoy the freedom of the Free Republic town square”
so quickly has the same poster telling another poster to go somewhere else if they want to discuss their views.
I realise that you believe the other poster was “off-topic”, but in general the freedom of FR has always included posters going down side streets.
One of the RM seems to perfers leaving the door open enough to continue to stir the pot in his version of Ecumenical there is no place for the Holy Ghost on FR where good people can strive for greater mutual respect, toleration, and co-operation among the world religions.
Sorry to point this out resty - in the case of when you posted this topic, there was no 'co-operation' or toleration for an opposing view - only a controlled dialogue to only present one side - mormonism. Crying about the mod is weak resty and poor form.
Not interested only because the course of the discussion cannot be 'controlled' eh?
Thus, ecumenism is the promotion of unity or cooperation between distinct religious groups or denominations of Christianity.
That definition in application to mormonism is intellictually dishonest. Mormonism has enshrined within its very doctrine exactly the opposite - it views all non-mormon churches as being of the devil and mormonism the only true church. That is your doctrine. Smooth talk of 'ecumenism' and 'unity' is the talk used by satan in the garden.
Ecumenism is distinguished from and should not be misused to mean interfaith pluralism.
mormonism rejects the fundamentals that join the various denomination of Christianity together - it has nothing in common with Christianity except for the hijacked name in large print on its meeting halls.
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