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To: Quix
Unmitigated balderdash.

Agreed. The posts are so stuffed with multiple layers of ignorance, prejudice, bigotry and flat-out lies that it would take a year to unravel them all.

But I will note that the first thing churches scream throughout history when people actually, personally experience the Holy Spirit without their prior approval is "demons!"

Which, of course, always makes it that much easier for real demons to hide behind the status quo - religious or otherwise.

58 posted on 10/11/2010 8:41:10 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: Talisker
Sorry, I've been involved in the Charismatic movement, attended charismatic meeting and masses, I've been "slain in the spirit," I've attended many Pentecostal services (when I briefly left Catholicism years ago) and travelled on a mission trip to Haiti with the local Pentecostal church. (My exposure to and involvement in Pentecostalism is enough to cause personal embarrassment now in retrospect as a trad Catholic.)

However, no one can watch these videos

SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY 1- False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING - Andrew Strom -Part 1

SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY 2- False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING - Andrew Strom -Part 2

Pastor David Wilkerson On Weird Manifestations

And still claim with a straight face that these are valid manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

60 posted on 10/11/2010 8:55:31 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Talisker; 1000 silverlings; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; ...
Qx: Unmitigated balderdash.

Agreed. The posts are so stuffed with multiple layers of ignorance, prejudice, bigotry and flat-out lies that it would take a year to unravel them all.

But I will note that the first thing churches scream throughout history when people actually, personally experience the Holy Spirit without their prior approval is "demons!"

Which, of course, always makes it that much easier for real demons to hide behind the status quo - religious or otherwise.

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ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

imho, the outrageous rants beginning this thread are evidently a result of embarrassed pique over 1000 Silverlings' very accurate and rational pointing out that Roman Catholic Charismatics don't fit the mold yet have even Papal approval.

Some of the RC's seem to be choking on the facts and their bitterness, resentments, bile, vengeance, retaliation compulsions boiled over. So, of course, they had to rush out and find as much dirt as they could throw at the perceived sources of the problems.

Thankfully, all they've succeeded in doing is displaying rather vividly their rigid biases and gross ignorance of the topic.

THANKFULLY, WE PENTECOSTALS & CHARISMATICS ARE IN GOOD COMPANY . . . .

They accused Pentecostals/Charismatics in Acts 2 of being drunk by 09:00.

Until THE LORD cleanses the earth and HIS CHURCH,

there will be excesses, counterfeits, exaggerations, sins, horrific nonsense, mistakes, misguided earnest efforts etc. all in the name of God.

However, not all seeming nonenses IS such. One of the greatest revivals of the last 150 years [I forget the name--might have been Azusa] . . . the leader was told by the Lord to wear a box on his head at the meetings--which he did. After a few years of constant revival, he decided to take the box off. The revival died shortly thereafter.

We see plenty of excesses, counterfeits, demonized doctrines of demons, ritualized horrific craziness, with all the Mary related idolatry and blasphemy. And that's with calm deliberate folks not even very excited!

We see it in the idolatry of THE RCC INSTITUTION.

And, whenever Holy Spirit is influencing and having HIS WAY with growing numbers of people, satan certainly redoubles his efforts to pollute, tarnish, corrupt, side-track, etc. any such move of Holy Spirit.

However, it's the cliques who cheer on--AS SCRIPTURE DECLARES--THE FORM OF RELIGION, THE FORM OF GODLINESS

WHILE DENYING THE POWER THEREOF

WHO ARE MOST DANGEROUS TO SOULS AND ETERNAL DESTINIES.

People can be brought back into balance.

Deliverance can be effected from demonic influences.

Correct teaching and training can bring more wholeness and fitting expressions.

At least those people are earnestly seeking God at all costs.

At least those people are willing to humble themselves in their desperately intense seeking God's face. They will not be denied. GOD WILL BLESS THEM. And He does.

It's pretty difficult to move lumps in the middle of the road or on a log, who are self-satisfied, self-righteous, idolatrous of their narrow, rigid, fossilized TRADITIONS OF MEN and DOCTRINES OF DEMONS in their worship of Mary and the blasphemies associated therewith.

A lot of these naysayers would likely not recognize a move of God's Holy Spirit if such occurred right in front of their faces. They are too willfully blind. Their spiritual sensors have become dulled, if not seered by so much stubborn refusal to hear and obey The Lord on something as basic as idolatry.

They are dreaming if they think I'm going to bother sorting out stuff they don't demonstrate the least bit of sincerity toward learning about. If any are sincere about learning, I'm sure there are some Roman Catholic Charismatics who are mature and spiritual enough to educate them.

I think the fact is that they merely want to deflect 1000 Silverlings' excellent points that have been hitting too much pay dirt for too many days now.

Thankfully, Holy Spirit WILL NOT BE STOPPED. He WILL HAVE HIS WAY, regardless. Some folks will be pushed aside. Some will learn and grow in The Lord. Others will be crushed under the Word of God because they REFUSED to be BROKEN ON THE WORD OF GOD.

Thanks for your kind and accurate post.

76 posted on 10/11/2010 9:32:50 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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