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To: Talisker; Dr. Brian Kopp; Quix; little jeremiah
grey_whiskers wrote: Swami Muktananda's teaching can be summarized in two quotations:

* Honor your Self, Worship your Self, Meditate on your Self, God dwells within you as you.

* See God in Each Other.

Called third strike. This is NOT what the Holy Spirit calls Christians to.

"Called third strike?" Maybe the strike is in the mind of the caller. Because when I read these teaching from Muktananda, I hear: "As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love. I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you." - John 15: 9-12

That's great. Now tell me why you skipped the first sentence of the Hindu teachings "Worship Yourself Meditate on Yourself."

In taking the teachings of Jesus out of context, and ignoring those Hindu teachings which CLEARLY contradict Christian teachings (compare the Worship Yourself to Matthew 4:8 "And Jesus answered and said to him, Get you behind me, Satan: for it is written, You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve") you fulfill the Chestertonian description to a T.

As far as the Chakras -- I wouldn't know a Chakra from a Sherman tank; all I know of them I learned from reading about the ole' crazed sex poodle AlGore. His reported behaviour is reminiscent of that of Muktananda as described by little jeremiah in Post # 118.

And here's a final thought: I and people like me, sit back and watch millions of Catholics and Protestants going at it, all certain each other is going to hell, and that's when you already acknowledge that the other is a Christian. Yet none of you - none of you - see your bickering as any reason why someone else should perhaps not be so worried about getting your religious approval.

Hmmm, you ought to re-read my posts #94 and #105

You aren't the first one to have voiced that thought.

Incidentally, though, it is interesting that you refer to "watching Catholics and Protestants" -- grammatically implying you identify with neither group.

Greek Orthodox? Eastern Orthodox?

(Yes, I read your post #78 in which you wrote:

"In my view, if it isn't founded upon the Holy Spirit, it isn't a real religion. I don't believe there is more than one Holy Spirit. But I also think that God is infinitely creative, and never leaves a culture abandoned."

That may be true: but it does not necessarily follow that the Kundalini is the Holy Spirit. (You appear to be suggesting that Kundalini is the Holy Spirit working--so to speak--"incognito", at least to Western eyes -- purifying the lives of those open to it, insofar as their cultural constraints allow such). But I see no indication that Kundalini directs people to Jesus; nor any indication of a need for salvation through the Cross and the Resurrection. ("...who proceeds from the Father and the Son", also see 1 John 4:1-6, and John 14:6).

Cheers!

233 posted on 10/12/2010 9:16:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Thanks for the ping. I wrote a couple of long comments back on the 100-200 page, explaining about Muktananda and why he is not representative of Hindu philosophy or religion. Long topic. Muktananda clearly said and taught that each individual is God, and are not individual souls. This is not mainstream or the main teaching of the Vedas, but a perversion which has gained much popularity in recent years. Anyway, long topic, I wrote a lot already about it.


234 posted on 10/12/2010 9:22:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: grey_whiskers

INDEED.

THX THX.


235 posted on 10/12/2010 9:24:49 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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