Posted on 10/07/2010 9:48:38 PM PDT by 0beron
Editor: some of you will recall this Bishop from the time he tried to destroy a traditional parish in his diocese which resulted in the "Revolt of Thiberville". His unnatural taste for such destruction continues.
This summer a French Bishop showed what it means , in contrast to the Society of St. Pius, to remain in "full communion" with the Pope.
[kreuz.net] Bishop Christian Nourrichard (62) of Evreux has participated in the ordination of eleven men and 13 women to Anglican orders.
This was reported by the French District Superior of the Society of Pius X, Father Regis de Cacqueray, on the 15th of September in a broadcast
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A very serious act, if true. This Bishop Nourrichard has been rebuked by the Vatican before.
Of course it’s true.
So SSPX justifies their own disobedience by citing the disobedience of others?
Geez, guys it ain’t hard. Obedience is a virtue for everyone, and that includes you SSPX folks.
Geez guys, strange though that others aren’t often punished for their disobedience and viciousness, certainly disobedience which pales in comparison with what is routinely done by NO priests and Bishops.
Doesn’t matter. Disobedience is disobedience. Pointing fingers and using it to justify your own behaviour when it is ‘less bad’ is a poor motivation.
I’m happy that SSPX is in, but you have to abide by the same rules as everyone else. As a convert, I take a particularly dim view of that argument.
I notice that the bishop is said to have “participated” in the ordination of women to the ANGLICAN priesthood.
What does “participate” mean? Does it mean that he helped ordain the women using his authority as a Catholic bishop?
Or does it mean that he attended the ordination service of some women being ordained to ministry in a non-Catholic religion?
sitetest
Doesn't matter which. Simply attending would be a deliberate act of defiance, as well as his stamp of approval.
It matters a very, very great deal.
If the Catholic bishop were to attempt to ordain a woman, he would be automatically excommunicated.
On the other hand, if he merely went as a courtesy, then it is murkier. His presence could be interpreted as approval, or only as courtesy.
If he went in defiance of his superiors (which would pretty much be the pope), that would be one thing. If he'd informed them that he planned to attend, and they offered no objection, that would be another.
If he went, neither with approval or opprobrium, then I will wait until competent Church authority offers some sort of judgment before I form my own opinion.
I haven't read anything to suggest one way or the other how these details fell out.
Without further information, personally, I'm not going to say all sorts of bad things about him.
sitetest
Well, yes and no, sitetest. Let me make clear I do not side with the SSPX, but am merely trying to show that they have a case.
The SSPX’s position when they became disobedient at first was that they were preserving a rite vital to the Catholic Church. Now Rome has relented and permitted the use of the Latin Rite... and relies on the FSSP to instruct its priests on how to properly perform the rite. And who is the FSSP? Those members of the SSPX who returned to the fold when Rome first began showing signs of relenting. So the SSPX’s “disobedience” preserved for Rome the beauty of the ancient rites.
Obedience depends of the validity of the command. I believe the SSPX is trying to undermine “character reference” and motive issues used against them as they are on trial before the world over the validity of their expulsion. And that they do by showing the way Rome bends over backwards accomodating the most horrific and outrageous of liturgical abuse from every manner of pagan and apostate custom, and single out with extreme prejudice those who validly preserve the Latin rite.
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