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To: colorcountry

Isnt that what most Christians believe, that Jesus saved us, but we have to follow his laws to accept it? Or can you do anything you want, murder, rape, steal, and still get to Heaven because Jesus died for everyone’s sins?


99 posted on 09/30/2010 1:48:46 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Raider Sam

No.

Most Christians realize that Christ’s atonement alone saves you. And after that the baptism of fire - your heart has changed and the fruits of that change is that you have a desire to never sin again. It doesn’t mean you won’t sin again. Or do you think you don’t sin?


103 posted on 09/30/2010 4:47:57 AM PDT by colorcountry ("The power of facts is much greater than the power of argument.")
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To: Raider Sam

Apples or Oranges?

Which to pick as they BOTH look SO good!


122 posted on 09/30/2010 6:18:10 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Raider Sam
Isnt that what most Christians believe, that Jesus saved us, but we have to follow his laws to accept it?

Some, sadly, yes.

But MOST of us believe:

"Saved by GRACE"

(And KEPT by GRACE; not WORKS.)

123 posted on 09/30/2010 6:20:12 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Raider Sam

“Isnt (sic) that what most Christians believe, that Jesus saved us, but we have to follow his laws to accept it? Or can you do anything you want, murder, rape, steal, and still get to Heaven because Jesus died for everyone’s sins?”

Jesus died so that those who make a decision to accept Him will be saved. Not all will accept this gift, so not all will be saved. We don’t have to follow His laws in order to be saved. The thief on the cross accepted Jesus as his Savior and he definitely did not follow His laws; he didn’t have time. Still, Jesus told him “Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.”

If a person is truly saved, he will live a decent and good life (follow His laws) because the Holy Spirit dwells in him.


128 posted on 09/30/2010 6:32:00 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Every time a liberal whines, an angel gets his wings.)
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