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1 posted on 09/26/2010 2:35:36 PM PDT by NYer
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Sometimes it is necessary to state the obvious.


2 posted on 09/26/2010 2:36:30 PM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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What about people who love the idea of God and heaven (as it really is) but are agnostics? They are miserable throughout their lives and hopeless because they don’t believe even though they wish to believe.

Does God give them a second chance in the next life or are they also doomed to hell?


6 posted on 09/26/2010 2:51:51 PM PDT by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: NYer

“And God won?t make you live some place where you are not happy.”


Yeah, ok Father. What good are scriptures when certain “religions” just make things up?


9 posted on 09/26/2010 2:54:44 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: NYer

The Devil was a pagan creation hundreds of years after Christ walked the Earth. I don’t buy it one bit. God is not a sadistic bastard that says love me or else.


10 posted on 09/26/2010 2:55:54 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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This makes me feel all lovey dovey and ooey gooey on the inside after reading this article.

And then I read the Bible. I trust what God’s Word says on the matter, and not some priest.


11 posted on 09/26/2010 3:01:55 PM PDT by Amerikan_Samurai
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To: NYer

Eckhart Tolle would approve of this article.


12 posted on 09/26/2010 3:03:38 PM PDT by Amerikan_Samurai
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“So here is the best I can do on a difficult topic.”

It’s only difficult to priests and professors of theology (from an earlier thread on the same subject).


17 posted on 09/26/2010 3:25:08 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: NYer
But understand this too. God has not utterly rejected even the souls in Hell. Somehow he still provides for their basic needs. They continue to exist and thus God continues to sustain them with what ever is required to provide for that existence. He does not anihilate them or snuff them out. He respects their wishes to live apart from the kingdom and its values. He loves them but respects their choice.

So here is the best I can do on a difficult topic.

What a load of bunk...This guy has no business teaching anything Christian...Leading people away from Jesus...

HEll is a real place...Where the SOULS of men burn forever with a fire that can not be quenched...

Apparently they wouldn't let this priest read the scripture even while he was in seminary...

24 posted on 09/26/2010 4:17:32 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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Quote: The Kingdom of God is about Liturgy – all the descriptions of heaven emphasize liturgy. There are hymns being sung, there is the praise of God, standing, sitting, prostrating. There is incense, candles, long robes. There is a scroll or book that is opened, read and appreciated. There is the Lamb on a throne-like altar. It’s all very much like the Mass

What Jewish tribe does Catholic Priesthood descend from

I will use Hebrews 7 as an observation on Liturgy Priesthood; the question then from Hebrews 7 is this : since the Jewish Priesthood consisted of Jews from Levi only, which Jewish tribe does the Catholic Priesthood descend from: Levi, or of Jesus ?, or maybe Judah, for which Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood:

Hebrews 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. 7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar. 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

Now concerning the Lamb on a throne alter

quote There is the Lamb on a throne-like altar. It’s all very much like the Mass

I will use Hebrews 7 again for an observation on the Lamb on a throne like alter; the question the from Hebrews 10 is this : how many daily sacrifices did God designate for us today?

Hebrews 7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. 7:23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: 7:24 But this man, because he continueth [for]ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. 7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he [Christ Jesus] did once, when he offered up himself. 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.

How many alter sacrifices of Christ?

Hebrews 10 also speaks precisely regarding how many sacrifices of Christ are required for the forgiveness of sins:

Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL [TIME]. 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

It is clear from God's Word in Hebrews

Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL [TIME].

Hebrews10:14 For by one offering he [Jesus Christ] hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

What does the Scriptures say?

What is an honest reply in regards to these perfect Scriptures? Why do we still need a Levitical priesthood in continual daily sacrificed? Why is Christ continually sacrificed WHEN Hebrews said that we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL [TIME].

25 posted on 09/26/2010 4:19:28 PM PDT by bibletruth
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So according to this article is that there are two choices: BURN for all eternity... or CHURCH for all eternity. Wow... do I want to be shot or stabbed to death? So many choices. I can’t imagine why more and more people turn away from organized faith altogether. When there is no good choice, how can anyone with a straight face call THIS, free will?

Any woman who lived in a household where the husband told her: “Love me unconditionally on my terms submissive to my every whim and you’ll not be making any demands whatsoever to me, forever; or die the most terrible unimaginably painful death.” would call that domestic abuse... and they would be right.


26 posted on 09/26/2010 4:25:00 PM PDT by McCloud-Strife ( USA 1776-2008)
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Wow NYer! That was great! Thanks for posting this!


31 posted on 09/26/2010 4:59:29 PM PDT by firerosemom ("Don't make Me come down there..." --- God)
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Hell Has to Be

While there is abundant evidence for God in the universe, there is no evidence whatsoever for Satan or Hell or any other such devilish things until the human mind begins to abstract - and make-up - information from its environment.

41 posted on 09/26/2010 7:40:39 PM PDT by onedoug
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For everyone:

Guess which word is in the Bible more than heaven?

Realize that you are searching for
under the earth
netherworld
Gehenna
Sheol
etc.
as well as
hell

when you do this search.

Are you surprised?


47 posted on 09/26/2010 10:13:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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People make their own hell,creating another one would be redundant.

No I don’t believe God is going to create another hell because people are wracked with guilt or act like human beings towards one another.

Cypher isn’t going to run it either because he has greater and bigger plans.And no you can’t run it either because it doesn’t exist.


54 posted on 09/27/2010 1:25:15 AM PDT by Del Rapier
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Kingdom this,Kingdom that.

No matter where you go or what you do,God will always be with you.

Accepting this in all its finality is what leads to Heaven.


69 posted on 09/27/2010 8:07:13 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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