If it is JUST a discipline...why the big fuss? You are missing the point I am making about the church being hypocritical saying “There will be no MARRIED PRIESTS IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH” ( except for the ones that come from another “church”.
Sure a man has a choice about “celibacy” but if chooses NOT to be celibate, he CAN”T become a RC Priest ( unless again from another church-—we have already established THAT exception!)
and yes, it is a big deal....or there would not be such a resistance to married men becomming ACTIVE priests...that is what we are talking about...not priests who “leave” and have priesthood in their soul.
You prove my point with all the “exceptions”...no need for endless exceptions if it is JUST a discipline, NOT a doctrine. Of course its a doctrine, or the church would say, “Well, we really would rather you be celibate, but since its not a doctrine and you just got married, well, we will ordain you anyhow!”
It just seems ok with a lot of Catholics...”we’ll have more exceptions in the future too...”, oh well, whatever.
Why be Catholic then if we are more and more like other churches? No wonder so many priests don’t believe in a lot of the actual doctrines...after all, things seem ok to be a little loose here and there.
You wrote:
“If it is JUST a discipline...why the big fuss?”
What fuss? Aren’t you the only one making a fuss here?
“You are missing the point I am making about the church being hypocritical saying “There will be no MARRIED PRIESTS IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH”...”
The Church never said any such thing.
“( except for the ones that come from another “church”.”
Or are in a sui juris Church of their own. Do you know what that means.
“Sure a man has a choice about “celibacy” but if chooses NOT to be celibate, he CAN”T become a RC Priest ( unless again from another church-—we have already established THAT exception!)”
So he still has a choice right? If he has a choice, he has a choice. Period.
“and yes, it is a big deal....or there would not be such a resistance to married men becomming ACTIVE priests...”
What resistance? Where? Where are the protests? Where are the letter writing campaigns? Where are the sit-ins? Where are priests quitting in anger? Oh, that’s right. There’s none of that. Do you even think about what you post before you hit the post button?
“that is what we are talking about...not priests who “leave” and have priesthood in their soul.”
I’m right in any case. And you’re not.
“You prove my point with all the “exceptions”...no need for endless exceptions if it is JUST a discipline, NOT a doctrine.”
No. You have proved nothing except that you apparently have no idea of what you’re talking about.
“Of course its a doctrine, or the church would say, “Well, we really would rather you be celibate, but since its not a doctrine and you just got married, well, we will ordain you anyhow!””
I’m sorry, but are you writing all of this as some sort of satire or parody of something? All you’re doing is making yourself look grossly ill-informed. It’s not a doctrine. Show me where in the catechism it says its a doctrine. When you fail you will have proved to everyone that it is NOT A DOCTRINE.
“It just seems ok with a lot of Catholics...”we’ll have more exceptions in the future too...”, oh well, whatever.”
And? What of it? What does it matter to you?
“Why be Catholic then if we are more and more like other churches?”
We are not more and more like them. We are always still the only true Church. Sects simply don’t mean anything.
“No wonder so many priests don’t believe in a lot of the actual doctrines...after all, things seem ok to be a little loose here and there.”
No, they’re not. Priests sometimes fail for the same reason you have.
There have been married priests in the Catholic Church for centuries, just not in the Latin Rite and not in the US. The Byzantines and other Eastern Catholics have had a married clergy for a long time.
Of course its a doctrine
It's doctrine -- and was affirmed as such by Trent -- that the celibate state is superior to the married state as far as the service of God is concerned. Of course that's straight out of Scripture (1 Cor 7).
The Latin Church's practice of not ordaining married men is not doctrine. It's a prudential decision that is based on that doctrinal point, but, like any other prudential decision, exceptions can be made.