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Another Priest Automatically Excommunicated Despite Bishop Olmsted’s Efforts
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| September 22, 2010
| John Quinn
Posted on 09/22/2010 11:13:08 AM PDT by NYer
Fr. Vernon Meyer, automatically excommunicated himself when he rejected the teachings of the Catholic Church concerning women ordination. Meyer participated in the ordination of Elaine Groppenbacher in Tempe, AZ last month. For Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted, this is the fifth priestly excommunication for serious refusal of faithful obedience to the Catholic Church, according to The Arizona Republic.
Referring to Meyer, Bishop Olmsted states: Actions such as these are extremely serious and carry with them profoundly harmful consequences for the salvation of the souls participating in this attempted ordination. To feign the conferral of the Sacrament of Holy Orders results in the penalty of excommunication. This penalty applies both to the person attempting the ordination and the person attempting to be ordained.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church, #1577: Only a baptized man validly receives sacred ordination. The Lord Jesus chose men to form the college of the twelve apostles, and the apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed them in their ministry. The college of bishops, with whom the priests are united in the priesthood, makes the college of the twelve an ever-present and ever-active reality until Christs return. The Church recognizes herself to be bound by this choice made by the Lord himself. For this reason the ordination of women is not possible.
This is not the first disagreement between Fr. Meyer and Catholic Doctrine. In 2004 Fr. Meyer was under obedience to Bishop Olmsted to recant a joint declaration Meyer signed which supported full acceptance of gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgendered individuals in churches.
Fr. Meyer apparently told The Arizona Republic that he signed the declaration after making sure it did not conflict with Catholic positions. This statement contradicts the actual declaration, which states: Homosexuality is not a sickness, not a choice, and not a sin. Two sentences later, the declaration proclaims that all aspects of the homosexual lifestyle should have full acceptance and inclusion.
Despite the pastoral efforts of Bishop Olmsted, Fr. Meyer is now a United Church of Christ minister and is the Director of the Arizona Center for Theological Studies, which he founded. Fletch Wideman, local president of the pro-homosexual group P-FLAG reports the United Church of Christ, has taken a strong pro-gay stand. This comment would be supported by high percentage of United Church of Christ clergy signing the petition.
The Arizona Center for Theological Studies reportedly values a deep respect and appreciation for the various interpretative traditions within Christianity. And has courses on Ecumenical Methods of Theology and studies the Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian and Islamic religions among other diverse topics.
The center has two sponsors. One is John Chuchman, who authored the book I Love My Church, BUT, OH MY GOD! In the book, Chuchman states why he is so excited about Organizations like Call to Action and Voice of the Faithful, organizations known to be active in their support of abortion, homosexual rights, contraception and womens ordination.
Bishop Olmsted has been under attack for requesting his clergy and religious to remain faithful to the vows of obedience they took when they dedicated their lives to serving the Catholic Church. Many people are calling Bishop Olmsted intolerant and unpastoral. This is not true. He has exhausted every resource to bring his sheep back to the flock. How truly sad it is that some of his priests choose tolerance as their supreme pillar and foundation of truth.
And all that will live godly in Christ Jesus, shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall grow worse and worse: erring, and driving into error — 2 Timothy 3:12-13.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: olmsteadaz; ucc
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John Quinn is a father of five. He and wife, Regan, homeschool their children in a small rural Missouri town. During the "Year of the Priest," he and Jeff Gares co-founded Courageous Priest, a Catholic Apostolate approved by their Spiritual Director. Visit Courageous Priest to follow Bishops and Priests like Archbishop Burke, Bishop Olmsted and Fr. Corapi. The only support they ask for is your visit and your prayers.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:13:12 AM PDT
by
NYer
To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...
Fr. Meyer is now a United Church of Christ minister and is the Director of the Arizona Center for Theological Studies, which he founded. And this is precisely what other religious, who disagree with Catholic Church teaching, should do as well ... leave.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:14:31 AM PDT
by
NYer
("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
To: NYer
Don't like the rules...leave....or get kicked out.
All those homosexual priests should have been kicked out, too....and prosecuted. They were criminals...pure and simple.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:19:25 AM PDT
by
Sacajaweau
(What)
To: NYer
I’ve met Bishop Olmstead. He’s a very kind and gentle man.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:20:16 AM PDT
by
sitetest
( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
To: NYer
Bp Olmstread also excommunicted that nun on the Catholic Hospital ethics committee who ok'd the abortion a couple of months ago. He seems top realize that sometimes the only adequate method of communication is excommunication.
Good for him.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:21:43 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
(The Holy Catholic Church: the more Catholic it is, the more Holy it is.)
To: NYer
I’ve had some dealings with the former “Fr.” Meyer.
The Catholic Church is better-off without him.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:27:09 AM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: NYer
Bishop Olmsted is my Bishop. He is a great Shepard indeed, and I am very thankful. Pray for him daily, that he is protected and comforted as he fights for orthodox Catholic Doctrine, and fights against Satan's henchmen who desire his demise.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:39:49 AM PDT
by
J Edgar
To: NYer
Bishop Olmsted is my Bishop. He is a great Shepard indeed, and I am very thankful. Pray for him daily, that he is protected and comforted as he fights for orthodox Catholic Doctrine, and fights against Satan's henchmen who desire his demise.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:40:23 AM PDT
by
J Edgar
To: NYer
Bishop Olmsted is my Bishop. He is a great Shepard indeed, and I am very thankful. Pray for him daily, that he is protected and comforted as he fights for orthodox Catholic Doctrine, and fights against Satan's henchmen who desire his demise.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:40:29 AM PDT
by
J Edgar
To: NYer
Bishop Olmsted is my Bishop. He is a great Shepard indeed, and I am very thankful. Pray for him daily, that he is protected and comforted as he fights for orthodox Catholic Doctrine, and fights against Satan's henchmen who desire his demise.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:40:39 AM PDT
by
J Edgar
To: NYer
Bishop Olmsted is my Bishop. He is a great Shepard indeed, and I am very thankful. Pray for him daily, that he is protected and comforted as he fights for orthodox Catholic Doctrine, and fights against Satan's henchmen who desire his demise.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:40:39 AM PDT
by
J Edgar
To: NYer
Bishop Olmsted is my Bishop. He is a great Shepard indeed, and I am very thankful. Pray for him daily, that he is protected and comforted as he fights for orthodox Catholic Doctrine, and fights against Satan's henchmen who desire his demise.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:40:39 AM PDT
by
J Edgar
To: NYer
Bishop Olmsted is my Bishop. He is a great Shepard indeed, and I am very thankful. Pray for him daily, that he is protected and comforted as he fights for orthodox Catholic Doctrine, and fights against Satan's henchmen who desire his demise.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:40:45 AM PDT
by
J Edgar
To: NYer
Bishop Olmsted is my Bishop. He is a great Shepard indeed, and I am very thankful. Pray for him daily, that he is protected and comforted as he fights for orthodox Catholic Doctrine, and fights against Satan's henchmen who desire his demise.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:40:47 AM PDT
by
J Edgar
To: NYer
Bishop Olmsted is my Bishop. He is a great Shepard indeed, and I am very thankful. Pray for him daily, that he is protected and comforted as he fights for orthodox Catholic Doctrine, and fights against Satan's henchmen who desire his demise.
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:40:47 AM PDT
by
J Edgar
To: J Edgar
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posted on
09/22/2010 11:51:48 AM PDT
by
Sacajaweau
(What)
To: Sacajaweau
Yeah, my computer hung up, and I hit the ‘post’ button too many times. Sorry!
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posted on
09/22/2010 12:02:45 PM PDT
by
J Edgar
To: sitetest
Good for him. It’s nice that he is a kind and gentle man.
He is also no longer a Priest.
He can be kind and gentle with whatever flock of worshippers that wish excommunication for following him.
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posted on
09/22/2010 12:04:49 PM PDT
by
Venturer
To: J Edgar
Hey, at least is was something worth saying!
Freegards
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posted on
09/22/2010 12:06:19 PM PDT
by
Ransomed
To: J Edgar
I’ve seen plenty of double-posts and even triple-posts, but a nonuple-post? Got to be a record!
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posted on
09/22/2010 12:06:22 PM PDT
by
CT-Freeper
(Let's Go Mets!)
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