Posted on 09/17/2010 6:53:06 AM PDT by marshmallow
Sometimes it's best to say nothing, Alex.
Readers can draw their own conclusions from that outburst.
Conclusions were drawn well before post #2. Why stop the fun now?
They were?
You a .....uh..........mindreader??
Has the pope molested children?
I'm certainly not getting "bent out of shape" over anything, so your historonics are a bit confusing. I have complimented the Pope for many things when I think it is due and have done so about elements of this visit to England. I have also condemned what I percieved as unfair attacks on the Pope. But I will also point out hypocrisy when I see it and I believe it is present here.
I love the Pope’s tie-dyed stole!
The British press has been full of that frap all week, I'm surprised you've missed it.
I can understand their problem with 'Pope hats', but I wouldn't mind having a 'Pope' coffee mug.
“People were trying to get us interested in papal coffee mugs and foam rubber miters,” said the Rev. Leslie Ivers, director of the New York Archdiocese’s office for the papal visit. “These are things that we don’t think are in good taste.”
Thanks for blowing your own case out of the water.
According to your article, “people” were trying to get the archdiocese to sell foam miters. We don’t know who these people were, or whether they were even Catholic. What is clear is that they had no connection with the Holy Father, and that the representative of the archdiocese said the foam miters were not in good taste. How you can wring papal hypocrisy out of that is a question for the ages.
“Why would(n’t) a Catholic want to own a foam miter?” The archdiocese responds by saying “we don’t think they’re in good taste.”
What’s your problem with that? Any properly catechized Catholic is going to agree that they are in bad taste. Again, no indication of papal hypocrisy.
“And a t-shirt is?”
That depends upon what is written on the t-shirt, and where it is worn. T-shirts per se are not intrinsically offensive, as is a foam miter. Again, no indication of papal hypocrisy.
“Why not a miter? What about a miter with the Pope’s picture on it?”
I don’t believe that you are incapable of seeing the problem with that.
“And what’s wrong with calling it a “Pope hat” anyway? Some Catholics use slang to refer to the Pope as “papa” - why not slang to refer to his traditional headgear?”
Slang? My word, you’re not even trying to get things right, are you? “Papa” is Latin for “father.” If anything, it is more formal than “pope.”
“I think it’s safe to assume that the availability of foam miters at any papal appearance is purely “unofficial” at best.”
And yet you allege that their existence demonstrates the hypocrisy of the Holy Father when he speaks of the culture of celebrity. Where’s the consistency in that?
“I think it’s also safe to assume that vendors anticipate a demand for them, since in 1995 they tried to get the archdiocese’s blessing (pun intended) to sell them.”
They tried and failed to get the archdiocese’s permission. Further, anticipating a demand is not the same thing as finding a demand, and neither does selling nonsense to young skulls full of mush demonstrate papal approval. No indication of papal hypocrisy anywhere, yet.
“Would an archdiocese sue competing vendors for selling “unauthorized” souvenirs from the Pope’s visit?”
I doubt it, but some people would say that unauthorized souvenirs show that the pope is hypocritical.
“I get the impression that the more traditionalist Catholics among you would consider buying or wearing a foam miter to be a disrespectful act.”
Only the most poorly catechized Catholics would not.
“It certainly diverts revenue away from archdiocesan efforts to pay for the Pope’s visit via “official” souvenirs. Would you consider that disrespectful as well?”
So, the “hypocrisy” attack having failed, you’re switching to some variant of the “greed” attack?
“I know that a foam miter on a parishioner is less tacky than a rainbow umbrella hat on a priest.”
1. When one is that deep into bad taste, I don’t think minor differences in degree of offensiveness are meaningful. And are we to think that, although the rest of the world agrees that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, your tastes are a matter of knowledge, which is to say a matter of fact?
2. Neither a foam miter nor a rainbow-umbrella hat fall under the definition of “Catholicism.” They are outward manifestations of Satan’s attacks on the Church, nothing more.
LOL!
I don't do "sarcasm tags"; they're just not my style. Those who get it, get it. Those who don't ... I just can't help them.
Great post - thank you.
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