..UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE MORMON CHURCH SAYS ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION, AMERICA, AND THE LAST DAYS

Worldview Times ^ | August 26, 2010 | Brannon S. Howse

[greyfoxx39]

Your humor is appreciated, but the sad part is, that’s how radical Islam actually can take over, we waste our time thinking about these little groups such as the Mormon Church while radical Islam can play its cards and really strike hard. Sad but true

One of the noteworthy examples of the Latter-day Saint commitment to treasure up true principles and cultivate affirmative gratitude is the admiration that Church leaders have expressed over the years for the spiritual contributions of Muhammad.

Muslims and Latter-day Saints

""Based upon ancient and modern revelation, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints gladly teaches and declares the Christian doctrine that all men and women are brothers and sisters, not only by blood relationship from common mortal progenitors but also as literal spirit children of an Eternal Father. The great religious leaders of the world such as Muhammad, Confucius, and the Reformers ... received a portion of God's light. Moral truths were given to them by God to enlighten whole nations and to bring a higher level of understanding to individuals ... Consistent with these truths, we believe that God has given and will give to all peoples sufficient knowledge to help them on their way to eternal salvation, either in this life or in the life to come ... Our message therefore is one of special love and concern for the eternal welfare of all men and women, regardless of religious belief, race, or nationality, knowing that we are truly brothers and sisters because we are sons and daughters of the same Eternal Father."[

[spacejunkie01]

“So do you avoid praying with anyone else? After all, some of those professing to be Christians could have a less than 100% accurate view of Christ. What about Catholics? Do you refuse to pray with them?”

So true. Many Christians (especially where I go to Church) believe in pre trib rapture. I believe that’s unbiblical; there are no scriptures that support it. But I don’t shun them or think they’re evil.

Glenn is working hard to save America. Isn’t that what most (all?) of us at FR are after?

[caww]

Your response...figures.

[caww]

Glenn is working hard to save America. Isn’t that what most (all?) of us at FR are after?

I believe he is as well... but he has to be careful and so do we... that his LDS beliefs do not carry over into his presentations...he is riding a fine line as generally the LDS leadership knows a good thing when they see it and will use it to advance their political agenda...which they definately have one. So caution is the word in my opinion, when it comes to Beck at this juncture...time will surely tell. But I would like to think if the LDS leadership pushes him he will push back and maintain his course....it's a hairy line right now.

[cbkaty]

Your statement had nothing to do with religious freedom...it has to do with what you perceive is possible within all faiths, I disputed that and it is to that which I addressed.

Religious Freedom was the essence of my post... You seem to disagree with "possible". it is always a pleasure to debate those with limitations.... After all, a man must know his limitations.

In my world much is possible, to what degree is the issue.

[GLDNGUN]

Ed Decker wrote "The Godmakers" and it concludes that indeed a Mormon will be elected President and place us all in a Mormon dictatorship. I actually swallowed this at one time. While I reject all LDS teaching that differs from traditional Christianity, the idea that the LDS Church is going to take over the country is about the most absurd thing I have ever heard. The LDS Church is SHRINKING in the US. It has LESS influence with each passing year. Good grief, SALT LAKE CITY itself is less than 50% LDS. They are a sliver of a sliver of the population as a whole. Please tell me who would be their allies in a takeover of the government! Liberals? Nope! Christians? Nope!

ISLAM is the religion you need to focus on. People are being beheaded in the name of ISLAM.

One more note on Ed Decker. The Tanners in SLC are THE best source of information on LDS teachings and history. They don't get carried away with fantasies like Decker has. They stick with documented facts, which is why they are so devastating in their arguments. Decker has made too many outlandish slanders against the Tanners to mention, including accusing the Tanners of being demon-possessed agents of the LDS Church.

Put down the Ed Decker "I see a devil behind every rock" material and go get some fresh air. You REALLY need it.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

Your response...figures.

As does your paranoia.

[terycarl]

What about Catholics? Do you refuse to pray with them?

Catholics have the ONLY 100% accurate view of Christ

[greyfoxx39]

Glenn Beck is about the only prominent newscaster who is trying to get the truth out there about the corrupt Obama White House. In addition, he is trying to call the different denominations together to stop the infighting and start getting back to the aforementioned Judeo/Christian roots that made this country great.

I agree in part. However, Beck is first and foremost a mormon, and mormons are called upon to spread their "gospel" by whatever means.

[GLDNGUN]

Praying with someone in legal i.e. spiritual agreement about something cannot be done between unequally yoked persons.

Why are you dancing around my question? Would you pray with a Catholic? Do you grill someone on their exact doctrinal belief of Christ before you pray with them? Heck, I'll pray with an athiest if they are in my home for dinner. Should I have not done that?

Praying for Mormons is a different matter altogether, but I don't see Paul or Peter or Jesus doing much praying with or for false teachers in the Bible, so I don't know what precedent there is for it. Do you?

Jesus and his disciples prayed with/for all sorts of people. Did Jesus grill people on their religious doctrine before he forgave their sins and healed them? Did Jesus grill the thousands before him when prayed by giving thanks for the food that they were about to receive?

And what did Jesus say to his disciples when they wanted to go rebuke some others that were going around preaching, healing, etc?

This time try to answer the questions.

[STD]

Dear Brother,

We ALL understand and read the WORD. We know the line up of apostates, they are legion. Unless we abandon every denominational division among 2500 Christian-like flavors, only our particular flavor's acceptable.

Many of my friends say Catholic's are apostates. Others claim calvanists are lost TULIPS. Ibid, the wacky 7th Day Adventist's. I've got news for YOU, without Jesus we are all lost!

Are you really ready to proclaim the unworthiness of everyone you deem apostate? Apparently, you're now the Great Judge who decides (before our creator God, King Jesus), who will inherit HIS Kingdom.

HE'S not willing that anyone be lost. Why are you caww? Say, who do all of the saint's belong to anyway? The Kiwannas, the KC? I have to tell you 'it's way above my pay grade' to quote the Antichrist. What we share together (in Jesus Christ) is greater than what tries to split us apart. Gird up your loins for battle, Hussein's the final enemy Brother!

I'm truly sorry that the mormon church hurt you! I pray you might someday forgive everyone including 'the specific mormon sinners' that hurt you. Not for their sakes mind you caww, but for your own! Me, I'm just a sinner saved by the grace of God. Look to yourself and your house.

Tearing down Glenn Beck today's like tearing down these United State's. Divide and conquer! Me first! We will surely hang together, if we don't hang alone! Until I hear from the King Himself, I'll let God be God and I'll let any of HIS many types of servants live in peace.

In the Kingdom of Jesus Christ, Jesus decides who's lost and who's found. I pray you find peace.

Agape, Michael

[STD]

Dear Brother,

We ALL understand and read the WORD. We know the line up of apostates, they are legion. Unless we abandon every denominational division among 2500 Christian-like flavors, only our particular flavor's acceptable.

Many of my friends say Catholic's are apostates. Others claim calvanists are lost TULIPS. Ibid, the wacky 7th Day Adventist's. I've got news for YOU, without Jesus we are all lost!

Are you really ready to proclaim the unworthiness of everyone you deem apostate? Apparently, you're now the Great Judge who decides (before our creator God, King Jesus), who will inherit HIS Kingdom.

HE'S not willing that anyone be lost. Why are you caww? Say, who do all of the saint's belong to anyway? The Kiwannas, the KC? I have to tell you 'it's way above my pay grade' to quote the Antichrist. What we share together (in Jesus Christ) is greater than what tries to split us apart. Gird up your loins for battle, Hussein's the final enemy Brother!

I'm truly sorry that the mormon church hurt you! I pray you might someday forgive everyone including 'the specific mormon sinners' that hurt you. Not for their sakes mind you caww, but for your own! Me, I'm just a sinner saved by the grace of God. Look to yourself and your house.

Tearing down Glenn Beck today's like tearing down these United State's. Divide and conquer! Me first! We will surely hang together, if we don't hang alone! Until I hear from the King Himself, I'll let God be God and I'll let any of HIS many types of servants live in peace.

In the Kingdom of Jesus Christ, Jesus decides who's lost and who's found. I pray you find peace.

Agape, Michael

[colorcountry]

Could you explain how there is really any significance to this religious movement at all? I fail to see any threat in what they believe.

And here's proof that Mormonism's PR campaign is working.

[StarFan]

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[TwoLegsGood]

Jesus did not pray for or with False Teachers or False Prophets. All He did, over and over again, was WARN US about false teachers and false prophets in the End Times when He also told us to beware the Great Apostasy that would come over the Church... i.e. the Strong Delusion of Isaiah and Thessolonians.

I was born again at a born again Catholic Church and the basics of Catholicism do not infringe on Christian theology regarding salvation as Mormonism does. I’m not into Popery of course, but only an idiot Catholic would actually believe that a mere mortal man is the intercessor for mankind on earth, especially since that Meditator already came died and was resurrected.

Comparing Mormons to Catholics isn’t the right analogy anyway. The proper analogy is Mormons to Islam... same fake lotta sex after death with wives or virgins... same fake mishmosh of Old and New Covenant ideas... same squatting on Judeo Christian ideas and geography... same violence built into its foundational beliefs. Bleech.

[maine-iac7]

Thank you, do they believe that only 250,000 go to heaven? Only the deacons of the Church? Pray for America

AH no. Besides there are thousands of deacons.

Pray for those who judge out of ignorance/prejudice.

[STD]

'Frankly there is room for peace, love, and understanding in all faiths.' We are all witness to all the peace, love and understanding within the muslim faith; shia, sunni baihia, kurd etc, killing more of each other than any Jew ever dreamed of doing.

You are deliberately being wrong here, upon that last point. You are lying, because you follow 'the father of lies' the devil. The koran reads like the sick twisted biography of a pedophile serial killer. Merely, a 'divine' license to commit any crime.

Outside of the children of 'the promise' there is no salvation, or anything else holy. The promise went to Jacob, not to ismael. Messaih Jesus came from this royal linage. Islamic faith is of the devil. The profit admits demon possesion by a ginn.

'Those that pervert Islam are as guilty as those that pervert any other faith.'

How can what's already perverted be perverted anymore?

Unlike the real faith descended from the Jewish patriarchs Abraham, Issac and Jacob their is no salvation, blessing or reward.

Why do the heathen rage? Because they know their time's short.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

*** Ibid, the wacky 7th Day Adventist’s. I’ve got news for YOU, without Jesus we are all lost!***

As the adventist preacher on the AMAZING FACTS tv show said, “You are saved by grace IF you keep the sabbath.”

So where is Jesus?

[greyfoxx39]

Tearing down Glenn Beck today's like tearing down these United State's.

Unfortunately, way too many people, FReepers included, have given Beck the status of an institution like the US..and some seem to have made him their personal Messiah.

This sounds very much like the prattling that comes from the Obamaniacs!

Beck is a fallible man, and alcoholic at that, and is no more a sage or a prophet than was Joseph Smith. One has to wonder what will he find to do to top this?

Glenn's "party" is over now. Let's buckle down and do the work that needs to be done and let the 52,000 mormon missionaries fan out and spread their message to gull Christians. It's their full time job for two years.

Glenn Beck is a paid entertainer, not the voice of conservatism. Don't forget that this movement began with the Tea Parties...those of us who, with Jim Robinson at the forefront have been spreading the message. When was the last thread about the tea party movement posted at FR? These are the folks that are in the trenches, that are out there on the border in AZ, that are working on getting conservatives registered and elected to the city and county and state positions.

Who do you think will have the lasting effect on the direction of the country? The Jim Robinsons or Glenn Beck?

[Domandred]

God warned me specifically through a series of pointed dreams in early 2008, that I was not to pray with Mormons

Hate to break it to you but God would not have told you that. If God said anything on the matter it would have been to minister to them so that they might find God and Jesus Christ ... If you believe that the God the LDS worship is not the God you worship.

I've seen a lot of back handed slights at Mormons here at FR but I can honestly say that yours is probably the most offensive I have seen and makes it worse that you claim it was from God.