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To: astratt7; kitkat
"Mary was merely a chosen woman, a sinner, saved by grace."

She was saved by grace alright, but she never sinned.

"Jesus is the only one who suffered, why would you share His Glory with any mortal?"

As far as Jesus being the only one who suffered you may want to read St. Paul and how he rejoices in his sufferings.

Col 1: 24 "Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church:"

So clearly, Jesus isn't the only one who suffers.

4 posted on 08/29/2010 1:07:54 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII; astratt7; kitkat; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg
She was saved by grace alright, but she never sinned

And you know that how? Even your church teaches ONLY Jesus could live a sinless life ..so a bit contradiction in the doctrine it seems

As far as Jesus being the only one who suffered you may want to read St. Paul and how he rejoices in his sufferings...
Col 1: 24 "Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church:"

Jesus is the only one that suffered and paid the price for all the sins of the ones that come to Him

You mis-read Paul's words .Do you really believe the cross was insufficient and we must make up the difference?

Paul here spoke of His afflictions suffered to bring the gospel, to grow the church. His afflictions saved no one, and had no effect salvation, even his.

"Christ is "afflicted in all His people's afflictions" (Isa 63:9). "The Church is His body in which He is, dwells, lives, and therefore also suffers" [Vitringa]. Christ was destined to endure certain afflictions in this figurative body, as well as in His literal; these were "that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ," which Paul "filled up." His own meritorious sufferings in expiation for sin were once for all completely filled up on the Cross. But His Church (His second Self) has her whole measure of afflictions fixed. ....Believers should regard their sufferings less in relation to themselves as individuals, and more as parts of a grand whole, carrying out God's perfect plan."
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown

9 posted on 08/29/2010 10:18:05 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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