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To: Cronos; Natural Law
Again, by saying that God "purposed" this you are ascribing sin to God.

No, I'm not. I don't think it's unreasonable to believe God has a purpose for everything He does.

God created Satan.

What was His purpose in that? And if His desire is to have the world sinless, then why does Satan still exist? God could erase Satan in the blink of an eye and sin would cease to exist.

From your link from somewhere...

The word translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.”

Fine. God creates distress and misery. You ok with that?

The NIV translates the word as “disaster”, The New King James translates it as “calamity” ( 7 I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the LORD, do all these things.’ ). The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the different definitions, one cannot assume that Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence.

Certainly one can assume that. "The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil," says your source.

The KJV is the gold standard of Bibles. But guess what? Take a stab at what the Roman Catholic Douay Rheims Bible offers for Isaiah 45:7???

"I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things."

As Leonard says on "The Big Bang Theory" -- BAZINGA!

4,969 posted on 09/15/2010 12:23:46 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Natural Law
I don't think it's unreasonable to believe God has a purpose for everything He does True, He does have a purpose for everything He does -- though ascribing purpose is anthropomorphism

God created Satan Yes

What was His purpose in that? I don't know
And if His desire is to have the world sinless, then why does Satan still exist? This I do know -- God can, as you said erase Satan in the blink of an eye and sin would cease to exist and yet He does not, He lets Satan sin and us sin, but He cannot be the author of sin, or we have the idea of a god who is both good and evil.
BGod creates distress and misery. You ok with that?Not ok, but that is different from evil.

I'm not saying the KJV is wrong to translate it as that, however the very term "evil" has different connotations in 1600s English and now -- a calamity is a great evil, misery is "an evil fell upon him" etc. which we do not use in present-day English. Note the difference between that and the modern NIV
4,979 posted on 09/15/2010 2:10:37 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is holy, the one Church, the true Church, the Catholic Church-St.Augustine)
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