Show me where the Catholic Church has EVER suggested she was.
she was not crucified...
Show me where the Catholic Church has EVER suggested she was.
nor was she raised from the dead in bodily form...
Show me where the Catholic Church has EVER suggested she was.
and she certainly is not the hand that moves in our life today...
Show me where the Catholic Church has EVER suggested she was.
Christ did and is sovereign above all in Heaven and on earth...
Show me where the Catholic Church has EVER suggested otherwise.
Christ did and is sovereign above all in Heaven and on earth... and therefore I stand with God that it is His Son we are to worship...and Him alone.
Show me where the Catholic Church has EVER suggested otherwise.
(And just so we're clear, when I ask you to show me where the Catholic Church has said something, that's exactly what I mean. Solid documentation, not some garbage you read in a comic book.)
I find it INCREDIBLY IRONIC that some anti-Catholics are going to such great lengths to agree with this threads premise, namely that the Catholic Church is seeking some sort of dictatorial powers. This thread was posted by Hank Kerchief, whose real name is Reginald Firehammer (the author of this piece) -- Hank Kerchief was zotted last week for being a TROLL. Hank Kerchief doesn't just hate the Catholic Church, he hates ALL CHRISTIANS -- this piece simply follows the leftist template of opposing orthodox Christianity and the template is to attack Catholicism the hardest and the most often. The left doesn't attack Catholicism because it hates Catholicism more or differently than it hates other orthodox Christians, the left attacks Catholicism because they believe that if they destroy the Catholic Church that all other Christians will just give up. Those Christians who support the left in this endeavor are no different from the isolationists of the late 1930s and early 1940s who said, "As long as Hitler leaves us alone, he can do whatever he wants, let's just stay out of the war."
Ah, thanks! I didn't know that. Do you know why he was?
What they can show you is an obscure local booklet published 50 years ago in Boston which they claim purports to demonstrate authorization by the Church of worship of Mary. They don’t understand that the determinations are made in Rome not Boston. Let them wallow in ignorance and questionable interpretations of Scripture.
God bless
Here's the title:
And it carries the official sanctions of:
ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.
WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR
Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .
Here they are:
However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.
p.32
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[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .
p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.
5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.
6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.
"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor
p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence
p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18
p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"
p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
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[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]
p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
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[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]
9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
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[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]
p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
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[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]
5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
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[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]
p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."
p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"
p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."
I prefer not respond to your 'show me' questions....these have been responded to and debated many times, by many posters, on religious threads and hardly comic-book articles, though as usual some of those trickle in. But what I woud say again is Clearly and most profoundly understood, that 'Christ' is to be worshiped above all others...and there is nothing in scripture that God elevates Mary to the extreme position the catholic church has.
I am not anti-catholic but I certainly will go up against what I see goes against Gods word regardless of the church affiliation....It's disturbing when anyone who disagrees with catholic doctrine is labeled as so...it makes catholics look like whinning victims... if they are Christians that is not the stance Christ called them to be in the face of conflict...truth can and does always stand..it does not creep behind a veil of anti-anything to protect itself.....it stands firm...always.
You stated..." the left attacks Catholicism because they believe that if they destroy the Catholic Church that all other Christians will just give up."
The left may believe that but all other Christians do not base their beliefs, or the survival on what happens to the catholic church....we understand the garbage needs to be taken out in 'all' churches who have brought it in... and that includes all churches who have allowed and enabled the body of believers to be infected by worldly ideas and behavior... again..none are exempt if they are His.
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Excellent post. I have done my best to ignore this thread, because of its ridiculous subject, but your post is simply outstanding.
I find it INCREDIBLY IRONIC that some anti-Catholics are going to such great lengths to agree with this threads premise, namely that the Catholic Church is seeking some sort of dictatorial powers. This thread was posted by Hank Kerchief, whose real name is Reginald Firehammer (the author of this piece) -- Hank Kerchief was zotted last week for being a TROLL. Hank Kerchief doesn't just hate the Catholic Church, he hates ALL CHRISTIANS -- this piece simply follows the leftist template of opposing orthodox Christianity and the template is to attack Catholicism the hardest and the most often. The left doesn't attack Catholicism because it hates Catholicism more or differently than it hates other orthodox Christians, the left attacks Catholicism because they believe that if they destroy the Catholic Church that all other Christians will just give up.worth repeating