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To: Cronos
15. Mary was not discarded by God once her purpose was completed. Instead, God installs her into an eternal relationship with God as a tool for God's plan for salvation of the world.

Unheard of by the early church for hundreds of years.

Where did this "revalation" come from?

Theories based out of whole cloth.

16. By her maternal charity, she cares for the brethren of her Son, who still journey on earth surrounded by dangers and difficulties, until they are led into their blessed home

Chapter and verse?

1,850 posted on 09/07/2010 8:25:30 AM PDT by bkaycee
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To: bkaycee
As I said
1. The death of Jesus Christ is sufficient for the salvation of our sins. This is Church teaching

2. God willed that this work of salvation be accomplished through the collaboration of a woman, while respecting her free will (Gal. 4:4) But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law

3. All God's creatures -- Mary included, need to accept Christ/God. This us co-operating (in the sense of only saying "yes") with God's plan and His work and His grace in our salvation. We do NOTHING to save oursevels except to accept HIM. Do you agree with this?

4. 1 Peter 2:5 5you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. and Phil 3:10 10I want to know Christ and the power of his resurrection and the fellowship of sharing in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death,

5. We are to proclaim Christ crucified. We are to spread the gospel and share the saving work of Christ with the world. We are called to prayer, holiness, and evangelism. We hence co-operate or rather are tools in God's plan of salvation.

6. Just as Moses and Abraham interceded with God, we too intercede with God for others.

7. These and the evangelists spread the Word of God to the Word and we as minor evangelisers TOO must spread the Word of God

8. Mary BORE the Word of God, she was a tool, an evangelizer in bringing the Word of God to the World

9. Just as our co-operation as tools is just an addition to Christ's death that saves the world, so too is Mary's role as a tool, a co-operator (in the sense that she bore Christ, our God and our Lord)with God.

10. Col 1:24 24Now I rejoice in what was suffered for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ's afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church. is St. Paul implying that Christ’s death on the cross was inadequate? Not at all. Instead, he is teaching that the all-sufficient sacrifice has to be completed by being preached, accepted, and embraced by our cooperation and that our suffering plays a mysterious part in this action. In that way the Redemption of Christ is applied and brought alive in the present moment by our own cooperation in that one, full, final sacrifice. No one says we are equal to Christ; instead, by grace, our cooperation becomes a part of Christ’s all sufficient sacrifice.

11. Mary too co-operated, yet as Simeon said in Luke 2:35 35so that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed. And a sword will pierce your own soul too."

12. Acts 1:14 14They all joined together constantly in prayer, along with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers.

15. Mary was not discarded by God once her purpose was completed. Instead, God installs her into an eternal relationship with God as a tool for God's plan for salvation of the world.

16. By her maternal charity, she cares for the brethren of her Son, who still journey on earth surrounded by dangers and difficulties, until they are led into their blessed home
1. Do you say that Christians are not brethern of her Son, Our Lord and God Jesus Christ?
2. Do you deny that Mary bore Our Lord and God Jesus Christ?
3. Do you deny that she was there at the foot of the cross and experienced sorrow and grief as only a mother seeing the death of her child could?
4. Just as Mary cared for the disciples of Christ, we believes she continues caring for those who Christ, Our Lord and God cares for.
1,872 posted on 09/07/2010 8:55:04 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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