Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The Reformation was about making the religion more to man's liking and taste, while criticizing the Catholic Church for being a man-made abomination!
Sounds like you are a semi pelagian. Man has been wounded but with help can choose correctly.Is believing a work?
Was it a work for Peter?
Matt 16:15He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" 16Simon Peter replied, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." 17And Jesus answered him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven.
Again, your theology presents a false choice. "Either All God or All Man" necessarily means that whichever way you choose, you eliminate the other. If you choose All God, you cannot hold Man accountable for anything - and you do not have Man but a programmed creature you mistakenly call man.
Rom 9:14What shall we say then? Is there injustice on Gods part? By no means! 15For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. 17For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth." 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills. 19 You will say to me then, "Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?" 20But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, "Why have you made me like this?" 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory.
With free will you have relationship. You have the possibility of love. You have reality: God and Man and His love and grace and our response, choices and consequences.
So Man determines who is redeemed, not God?
“Dont stop him with facts, hes on a roll.
Bigotry and hatred against Catholics, its been missing from FR for a day or two. It was due.”
Good heavens. I went to a Catholic funeral yesterday. I’m a protestant. It was very nice. These were humble, gentle people in attendance.
We have a dictatorship forming all right, but it ain’t about Catholics. I detest this stuff.
The Reformation was about making the religion more to man's liking and taste, while criticizing the Catholic Church for being a man-made abomination!
Oh, yes, and poor Tetzel financing St. Peters Basillica on the backs of the poor dupes buying indulgences, was just the "facade" needed for the protestant to rebel to the "good life".
No of course not. But what did the Protestants do different? They created another man-made religion. Are they any more perfect or any less guilty? What exatly did they change or improve?
The deacon who interviewed me asked why I should be allowed to partake. I told him I am a sinner who has been saved by faith in Christ alone and I bring nothing of my own. He asked if I was a member of a church that preached the Gospel, and I affirmed that I was. He asked if I could vouch for my family, I did. He warmly welcomed us to the table.
AMEN! Great story.
But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body." -- 1 Corinthians 11:27-29"Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
Indecipherable.
lolol
And now? You have learned that there are hypocrats in all communities, including your own. Is it that it no longer amazes you?
lol. I wonder how he'll try to finesse this, appeasing all sides by saying nothing too definitive. A little something for everyone.
Ratzinger is going to Britain because the papacy is dwindling in all industrialized countries. In Britain, it's just about extinguished and that's why he hopes to snag disgruntled Anglicans. Thankfully, the crowds have been much less than what was earlier projected by Rome.
This act of fudging limbo is just one more step in making it easier for Anglicans to cross the Tiber, who might foolishly believe Rome is just like them, only head by an "infallible" "alter Christus."
The devil's in the details.
Amen.
Ping to post 5,951.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2578704/posts?q=1&;page=5951#5951
Yes,dear friend
Now these things trouble me and I spend more time in prayer for people and realizing just how easy I make mistakes too.
For me, the Sacraments,daily Mass etc... is the only way for peace in this world that is falling away.
I,m outta here for the day!
Methinks the problem was, and is, much deeper than that caused by a single book.
Clearly a drive-by.
boy, no kidding
There is no “bigotry and hatred against Catholics” in these discussions. FReepers cannot criticize another FReeper personally, but we can discuss and criticize faiths, practices and beliefs that we do not think are found in God’s holy word.
Therefore there is disdain for errant doctrine such as the beliefs that Mary is a “co-redeemer” and a priest is “another Christ.”
There is a rebuke of the depiction of Scripture as fiction and a dismissal of the apostle Paul as “loony.”
And for pointing out these errors, Bible-believing Christians are called all sorts of names on this forum.
It’s to be expected. When sound doctrine is preached we are told some will have itching ears who will “turn away from the truth, and be turned unto fables.”
Repressed memories can be killers.
well there goes a lot of fun on the cruise ship deck
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