Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[Hank Kerchief]

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

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Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)

[Quix]

He’s a generous soul. No big offense. I just sought to minimize his bother while maximizing prayer for him.

[Quix]

I think that’s a reasonably generous perspective . . .

I’m fairly sure that you are aware that we are given

BY RC’S HEREON

WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT

OFFICIAL RC DOCUMENTS OUTLINING A MUCH MORE STRICT AND NARROW SET OF BOUNDARIES related to such issues.

I haven’t waded into it enough to know myself . . . but I’ve read reports that assert that the Catechism is in more than one place on such issues.

[D-fendr]

I don’t know why you pinged me on this. Does this person share your beliefs on the demons/aliens/bioengineering Jesus/holograph, etc. thing?

I commend all those who serve in our military but what’s this have to do with your story?

[Quix]

Y’all were insisting that this excellent authority I referred to as a FREEPER ETC.

DID NOT EXIST—that I was fabricating the whole claim and assertion about him.

REPEATEDLY that assertion was made quite brazenly.

Evidently you did not read the post you are referring to.

Evidently you also did not view any of the videos.

Done.

[Mad Dawg]

It is wearying to go over the same ground again and again.

We openly, frankly, straightforwardly claim that the change in the Eucharist is imperceptible. It's not an 'experience', any more than the identity of someone who is too far away to distinguish is an experience. It could look like Joe but really be Bill.

I already quoted the hymn, Pange Lingua:

Praestet fides supplementum
Sensuum defectui.

Let faith make up for the deficiency of the senses.

And earlier

Et si sensus deficit
Ad firmandum cor sincerum
Sola fides sufficit.

And since sense is lacking, faith alone suffices to strengthen the sincere heart.

There's little to nothing there about experience, vivid or not.

I want to stress that understanding Aquinas is not necessary to salvation (or heaven would be a kind of lonely place ...)

Almost anyone can say, "I believe Jesus gives Himself to be here in this 'pretend' meal. He is here." That, I think, is the faith Aquinas is singing about.

[D-fendr]

Y’all were insisting

I did no such thing.

[D-fendr]

It is wearying to go over the same ground again and again.

Well, I think you've made clear the difference and quelled common objections on one area.

No one has to share the faith, but at least you've made it clear what the faith is and isn't.

For a while anyway.

:)

[Mad Dawg]

I think that’s a reasonably generous perspective . . .

Well, we like to think that God is generous.
After all, He puts up with Catholics.

;-)

[caww]

a connection with the occult as well as a very compromised Christianty was found.

Quix I have looked closely on what and why people even become interested in the possiblities of all that we see on the web about such matters. What was the bait they took that edged them along, what was the bait, and at what point did perhaps simple curiosty lead to indepth examination of things outside the Christian faith they knew....

.....because I have found Christians are not immune to this attraction. Even those who are solid in their beliefs and realize some of this stuff is indeed satanic. Still there is a hook and a state of mind or heart, or both, that seems to be present when the bait is taken...and they fall.

Also,I understand for one to examine some of these happenings, and research these that it is highly recommened they have a solid grasp of the scriptures and an understanding of what the tactics satan and his hoard use. Basically "not to be ignorant of his devices".

It does seem that there is a lacking and or an un-belief that there are demons and a spiritual word that masks and counterfeits pretty much anything in the spiritual realmn. Then they are curious about dis-proving or finding out and they go to far to the edge....they lack the discernment to recognize even where the edge is...so they fall into it and the enemy of mens souls is certainly "roaring about seeking who he may devour' " and snatches them up into these beliefs and the experiences generally follow thereafter to convince them they are "really" seeing when in fact much is deception....a combination of thier own imagination along with it...they then "believe" these experiences are true.

The peoblem is the Christian who falls into this believes God is leading or allowing it all...as "christ promised to never leave them or forsake the,"..and if it isn't of God he wouldn't allow these experiences.

What's your take on how these people get entrenched and thus ship wreck their faith, but rarely see that that has happened?

[smvoice]

"..the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through baptism as through a door. Hence they could NOT be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as NECESSARY by God through Christ, would refuse to enter it, or to remain in it. - The Second Vatican Council. The Second Vatican Council, "Dogmatic Constitution on the Church" no. 14.

The Second Vatican Council also had this to say about "separated brethren".

"Non Catholic Christians who have been justified by baptism have a valid means of salvation, says the Church, but NOT in its fullness as in the Roman Catholic Church." -Second Vatican Council, "Decree on Ecumenism, " no. 3.

I just want to know if these are now considered falsehoods by the the Vatican Council. Or still binding by the Vatican Council.

Because you accuse me of stating a falsehood. And I am giving you what your Vatican 2 said. So either I am being false. Or they are being false.

[Natural Law]

Then its a good thing that I only thought it and didn’t post it.

[Mad Dawg]

You both, sox or no sox -- or no matching sox, have been very encouraging to me. I can't express my gratitude.

It's hard and tiring for me to do this stuff, and yet it seems so beautiful. The 'good news' in Aquinas's presentation is even if you are chewing nails and spitting tacks, or if you are depressed or have a totally flat affect, or if you are deeply contrite or dancing with joy in the Love ... in any case, you can rely on our Lord's being FOR YOU in the Blessed Sacrament.

You don't have to have the least clue about Scholasticism. You don't have to FEEL this or that emotion.

When the priest breaks the bread, I pray,
Lord Jesus, break my heart
For I trust against my fear that
If you break it, you will mend it
And fill it with yourself.

And when the Sacred Body is in my mouth I pray "nil nisi te, Domine," (and then I hit Him with a bunch of petitions ... "Nil nisi te, but as long as I have your attention, I have this brief list ...").

Now may He give me sleep. My rest will be eased when I think of the generosity of both of you.

Oh, sox. Here's the deal:

Sox provide the mass which triggers the singularity of black holes. Every washing machine or dryer is the gateway to a wormhole.

Corollary: All the matter which is sucked into a black hole and annihilated ends up in my sinuses.

I'm glad we had this little talk.

[D-fendr]

Wormhole comes out behind my garage.

Come get your darn sox.

[Quix]

I’ll restate it . . .

folks in the group you were chiming in with

did.

[Quix]

PRAISE HIS NAME FOR THAT!

[Quix]

I think that you are speaking well to those issues.

IN A SENTENCE . . .

THEY GET THEIR EYES OFF

OF JESUS

AND BEGIN to think that good things come from other routes as well.

Dreadfully hazardous.

That’s one reason I’m so fierce about seeking “Mary” for any reason.

[D-fendr]

It would be better to address your request for apology to only those who did what you believe they need to apologize for.

I don’t apologize for my posts to you or my opinions on your beliefs discussed in them.

[Mad Dawg]

NOT "ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH!"

You did not show what I asked you to show, and before there was any matter of evidence, I pointed out the difference, so I didn't shuck and jive after you brought your case.

Do you know that the Catholic Church is necessary? Only those who know that and refuse to enter or to remain in are in deep trouble. This does not say "there is NO salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church." It says "the Church", and "the Catholic Church". Then it says if you do know the Church is founded as necessary (it does not say for what) but refuse to enter it or remain in it THEN you can NOT be saved.

But that is quite a different thing from the proposition you first stated.

Then there's:
"Non Catholic Christians who have been justified by baptism have a valid means of salvation, says the Church, but NOT in its fullness as in the Roman Catholic Church."

The words "but not in its fullness" modify "means" not Salvation. Indeed I do not see how there can be degrees of salvation. Either you're a crispy critter or you're not.

I have already sketched what the lack of fullness of means might be.

To be simple-minded: I can "know" that if I regret my sins and mean to avoid them in future and a go to confession I am indeed forgiven. We maintain that if you go directly to God or to your pastor or a friend or whatever, you may well receive a forgiveness just as complete as what I received. But you may not.

Jesus is a spendthrift. I'm not going to say where He does NOT spend Himself. I am not only confident but happy to say that He calls many all over the place to come to Him and enjoy Him, and when they drink their grape juice and eat their fragment of white bread, He is happy to enter their hearts.

But, we say, we 'know' He is for us in the Sacrament.

As far as I know that's a sketch of the main different.

But you really do have to read this stuff in a picky way. That's how it's written.

[Quix]

AS PAUL SAID

CHRIST AND HIM CRUCIFIED . . . THE ONE AND ONLY ROUTE TO SALVATION AND ETERNAL LIFE.

. . .

also, imho, COME IN THE FLESH AND RISEN . . . COMING AGAIN

The critters and globalists will offer far more than another ‘Gospel.’

It’s far more than a paradigm shift.

They will insist on a whole different multiverse of realities.

And they will purport to PROVE what they assert.

Folks will need to know because they know because they know that JESUS ALONE IS THEIR LORD, SOLUTION, ANSWER, DEFENSE, KING, AUTHORITY, LIFE.

I don’t know when the Rapture is coming.

I don’t know when all this will be outted. Some of the webbot stuff says likely within 3-12 months. Who knows if that’s accurate.

I’m skeptical that folks of luke-warm faith will have a chance at all. Folks will need to KNOW GOD AND HIS VOICE.

Certainly God will be merciful to all who put HIM FIRST.

Others . . .

[D-fendr]

Or.. (and you had to guess this was coming)

Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.