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Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
They do not and would not as they would be enforced equitably, I'm sure. Since there is no mention of denominational affiliations, it cannot be biased against one group or another.
If you feel that that is the case, perhaps it would behoove you, or Catholics in general, to look at exactly how they are behaving that makes them feel that equitable enforcement of the rules would come across as *anti-Catholic bias*.
Jesus did not abolish circumcision...Christians still get circumcised today...Jesus abolished the Jewish reason for circumcision...
and Revelation 1:10 indicate that, even during New Testament times, the Sabbath is no longer binding and that Christians are to worship on the Lord’s day, Sunday, instead.
Sunday is not the Lord's day...Never has been...Never will be...That reference in Revelation is not a reference to Sunday...
If anything, Sunday is (some) Christian's day (to attend church)...
Jesus' body was changed...It is not the same body He walked around in on the earth...
INDEED.
They do not and would not as they would be enforced equitably, I’m sure. Since there is no mention of denominational affiliations, it cannot be biased against one group or another.
If you feel that that is the case, perhaps it would behoove you, or Catholics in general, to look at exactly how they are behaving that makes them feel that equitable enforcement of the rules would come across as *anti-Catholic bias*.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
That whole clap-trap of an RC reflex wail is just more evidence of their
compulsive
!!!!!DEMAND!!!!!
that FR become a directly-controlled-from-the Vatican official propaganda organ of the Pope and Vatican magicsterical.
What cheek. What arrogance!
LOL!
So, Father O’Halleran is sitting in the confessional. He hears some one come in and kneel down.
He says, “Father, I’m 92. Last night I ..,” and proceeds to describe a night of debauchery with three young ladies of dubious profession.
Father O’Halleran says, “Well, for that, I think a good penance would be a decade of the Rosary.”
The voice says, “The Rosary? But, Father, I’m Jewish!”
O’Halleran says, “You’re Jewish? Why are you telling me this?”
“Father, I’m telling everybody!”
Islam did get the idea from the OT; I thought that was generally understood and accepted and completely non-controversial. They got a lot of ideas from the OT and from the NT too.
I said it was "apparently" through the influence of Islam. It could, of course, be merely coincidental that, after 700+ years of evidence of Christian use of images and no record of opposition)suddenly icononclasm sprung up independently in some Christian groups and among the newly powerful Muslims, though it seems to me unlikely. Still, coincidences do happen.
The cartoons in response to enlightening spiritual questions are prima facie evidence that the respondent has no meaningful evidence to refute or contradict the contentions. One might argue that the respondent did not want to make such an argument but a group of objective individuals invariably do not interpret the cartoon or silly response in that matter. These factors have been proved in the jury selection process gleaned over many years.
It is all about the Love Jesus demands in Mt 5 44:48 and the renunciation of the sinful pride and selfishness exhibited by many on this thread,
God bless
I can't help it, I have to write this:
It seems like you're taking it personally. :)
Not likely...Jesus' flesh from His mother was changed...It was glorified...It became incorruptable...Just as will happen to us...
1Co 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Co 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
Just as those who have gone thru creamation at death...Their ashes will be brought together even tho their flesh was completely destroyed and be given a new body...
1Co 15:40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
1Co 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
Jesus had a a terrestrisl body...Jesus now has a celestial body...A spiritual body...Different body altogether...
35. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh, but by taking of that manhood into God.
Again, you guys are confusing the terrestrial body with the celestial body...
Somehow you guys missed out on the mystery...
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Jesus' human flesh was not manifest in God nor will it be...God was manifest in Jesus' flesh...You got it backwards...
LOL.
Keep praying...It'll help...
They shelter even more bad behavior by reducing further the "cost" for such behavior.
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Dear sitetest,
I do wish that you would explain why you believe the new rules will make things worse. It matters to me, because I respect your opinions and I suspect that many others, particularly Catholics, feel the same.
trisham
I linked to everything to back it up. This is just a thoughtless defense of someone who was asked to leave the thread. So basically, you’re defending the indefensible.
I think my posts were pretty clear.
You should see Houston’s First Baptist or Second Baptist. They are both rather large. Neither are so large as the House of Joel. First Methodist has a multi-campus spread.
Have you been reading the posts? I don't believe I singled any one church out. Why the assumption?
Who are these people worshipping?
That is a great question. I've read posts from other FReepers trying to equate the ornateness of a church with the quality of worship. I think this is a rather odd position.
I followed and read the links...Thus, my response...
LOL.
You’re a dear and a trip.
“’I have no sense’
“Keep praying...It’ll help...”
In what way does this brazenly taken out of context remark not qualify as a personal attack?? Why is this poster even here??
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