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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: campaignPete R-CT

SIGH.

I think they will have to give an account to God for such cluelessness.

Sigh.


221 posted on 08/27/2010 10:57:35 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
I am accusing them of being fools. And that is not a good thing to be.

I would agree somewhat -we maybe see a lack of political street smarts.

I see it less an issue of not being good at the game and more an issue of the game changing its rules... Much of what was once taken for granted is now up for debate and considered illegitimate unless rationally based and in addition to this we have the whole meaning of is is crowd... The left is increasingly becoming more adept at cloaking themselves in moral sophistries and as a result I feel that many nuance averse meat and potatoes voters of faith get hoodwinked. The media is no bystander in this... Anyway, more and more it seems many are in uncharted territory and looking for leadership that can unmask these scoundrels... Most people, especially those of faith, want to give the benefit of the doubt and take others at face value...

many I think are waking up --those are my thoughts on the matter

222 posted on 08/27/2010 11:30:11 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
The prominent preacher John Hagee teaches that Jesus is not the Messiah promised to the Jews.

It seems most of the televangelists are just flat bananas whether national or local. Billy Graham is an obvious exception. I often encounter adherents/devotees of Benny Hinn, the Copelands, Creflo Dollar, etc., who attend evangelical or fundamentalist Protestant churches, usually these people are also ardently anti-Catholic. What I am completely unable to understand is how they reconcile the wholesale practical and intentional denial of the divinity of Jesus Christ by the televangelists they financially support with what their own local congregations supposedly believe and teach.

We've got a local guy who's in the process of creating a mega-parachurch and some evangelicals I know are just so excited about what he's doing. I pointed out some of the ways he denied the divinity of Christ and they looked at me like I was the one speaking in tongues. If he'd announced he believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary they'd have run him out of town, but he's saying Jesus Christ wasn't God until He was baptised in the Jordan (and not really even then) and they're throwing money at him hand over fist.

It's surreal.

223 posted on 08/27/2010 11:33:39 PM PDT by Legatus
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To: Hank Kerchief; Quix

While a cursory reading of the OP leads me to think ti’s pretty much deranged, I also take comfort in the that fact that, if the prelates I know are any guide, if we Catholics mean to take over the world, you all have nothing to worry about.


224 posted on 08/28/2010 12:29:38 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: livius

My daughter was married to a Swede and in Sweden Lutherans are a state religion, of course now it seems they are playing the PC game with the Muslims.


225 posted on 08/28/2010 12:45:45 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: francky

Yep no chains on me.No taxes just those of Obama and Pelosi who want us all to be slaves to the government.The true dictatorship.


226 posted on 08/28/2010 12:53:33 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Legatus
If he'd announced he believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary they'd have run him out of town, but he's saying Jesus Christ wasn't God until He was baptised in the Jordan (and not really even then) and they're throwing money at him hand over fist.

Well let's see here...Jesus wasn't God until the Holy Spirit landed on Him compared to Mary is the co-redeemer, co-mediator, the dispenser of all Graces, etc...

How can you condemn anyone of the likes of this guy or even Benny Hinn while pushing your religion's anti-Biblical heresies concerning the Mother of Jesus???

227 posted on 08/28/2010 3:20:40 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Hank Kerchief

This is just as bad as comunism!!


228 posted on 08/28/2010 3:25:59 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Tax-chick

“All the cops and paramedics I’ve ever known say the full moon really does bring out the wackadoodles.”

My big sis trained at a mental hospital in NY and said that when the full moon occurred, some would go berserk(er).

Have you thought about naming your next child Friedrich or my personal favorite, Lothar or maybe Otto. If it’s a girl we can just shave her head and name her Joan II.

That would give us in the Rabid Cabal a head start on a new Emperor.


229 posted on 08/28/2010 5:12:35 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR

I’m not expecting right now. Frederick is a good name, though.


230 posted on 08/28/2010 5:25:27 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I should be, but I'm not.)
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To: stfassisi

I know you would really like to argue this with me, but I’m got giving fodder to those who would use it against The Church. If you have a problem with the title Co-redemptrix not being given to Mary, your fight is with the Vatican and not me.

Not a single Pope has declared this dogma. Had it been something that the Vatican wanted, it would have been done.
Not that you can’t believe it, but that you cannot speak for the Church in this regard.


231 posted on 08/28/2010 5:27:15 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Mad Dawg

There is that, alright.

LOL.

I didn’t really take that issue very seriously. There are too many other forces—particularly occult globalism—driving the train.

It IS more than disturbing to see signs of the Vatican being complicit in that train . . . or hijacked onto it . . . or whatever is the behind the scenes reality on such scores.


232 posted on 08/28/2010 5:57:56 AM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Iscool; Mad Dawg; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; ...
Plenty true.

I've often been dismayed with all manner of 'RELIGIOUS' 'GREATS' over the years . . . of virtually every label . . .

who seem to get more than a little full of themselves and decide they have to publish a new twist on theology to distinguish themselves somehow.

99.9999999% of such notions are always full of speculation and founded on slivers of toothpicks for foundation, if that substantive.

We all have had some hair-brained notions in our lives. Most of us have better sense than to publish them as some fraction of 'Gospel truth.' And, usually, most of us, after a few months or several years, have the good sense to leave such wild speculations by the wayside as some sort of prideful intellectual . . . uhhhh . . . burp.

Some Proddy folks persist embarrassingly long in such silliness. And The Vatican seems too overprone to declaring some such notions Gospel dogma. It's all chaff or worse. And there's more than enough to go around to all groups. None are immune. None are totally free of such junk. Pretending they are free of such and as pure as the driven snow is arrogance-to-the-max; wholesale lack of insight and candor . . . and usually . . . some level of delusional.

233 posted on 08/28/2010 6:08:36 AM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Iscool; Legatus
How can you condemn anyone of the likes of this guy

To make sure I understand, do you agree with the statement "Jesus wasn't God until the Holy Spirit landed on Him"?

234 posted on 08/28/2010 6:09:44 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Quix
In a biography on TV several years ago on Aimee it was revealed she was detained by the LAPD for suspicion of solicitation. Gee what a surprise for the Four Square group
235 posted on 08/28/2010 6:29:34 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: bronx2; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ..
So . . . .

it appears that you are

EQUATING THAT SINGLE INCIDENT???

WITH

THOUSANDS

of incidents of priests 'exercising with' altar boys around the world while the hierarchy protected them, shuffled them about and was generally complicit?

Please elaborate on the theological justifications for such a hypocritical pile of

ALICE IN WONDERLAND SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY AND REALITY MANGLING

RATIONALIZATIONS.

Observant Proddys are moderately curious about such smelly rationalizations.

OH, WAIT--I GET IT--Vatican compost flows in only one direction--TOOOOOO PRODDYS--in Alice's rabbit holes.

236 posted on 08/28/2010 6:42:09 AM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
Aimee did have several husbands. In Mt. 5 31:33 Jesus forbade divorce and remarriage , yet the Semple one refuses to listen to His message. Now we know what type of person she was, but is this attitude indicative of other Four Square members who decide for themselves what messages of Jesus to obey.

It appears from the Semple one’s behavior, she violated the command against divorce and remarriage or requested the escape clause of fornication. If this be so, Aimee might well have been conversant with the woman caught in adultery. What do you think?

237 posted on 08/28/2010 6:54:35 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: Quix
There's no need to get so defensive. We're all just trying to learn the facts.

Wasn't she abducted under mysterious circumstances in her bathing suit, but then showed up out in the desert fully clothed in her own clothes?

Maybe the Greys got to her? They're capable of disguising themselves as Mexicans aren't they?

238 posted on 08/28/2010 7:01:36 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Quix

Notice how there was no refutation of the charges leveled against Aimee since truth is its own defense. I was just wondering if this type of activity is normal behavior for the Four Square group since Aimee was such a revered figure among them and groupies like to emulate their stars.


239 posted on 08/28/2010 7:03:34 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: narses

It would be even funnier if no one actually believed it. :)


240 posted on 08/28/2010 7:11:20 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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