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Malachi Martin: Visionary Priest, Cold War Spy or Notorious Womanizer?
The S0uth Coast Report ^ | 8/5/10 | Thomas K. Concert

Posted on 08/25/2010 6:43:44 AM PDT by marshmallow

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Martin’s genius understood this and was trying to warn the world that a tiny, yet very powerful band of luciferic, pedophiliac intruders, were trying to snake their way into the corridors of the Vatican.

But such a strange way of trying to warn us. Why not simply come out and present what you know, rather than cloaking it in "faction"?

I'm ambivalent towards Martin.

Martin's writings and life continue to fascinate but I'm not sure what they add to the Church's efforts to spread the Gospel, nor to my own personal journey and battle with sin.

1 posted on 08/25/2010 6:43:48 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
Another possible profession . . .


2 posted on 08/25/2010 6:53:12 AM PDT by bonnieblue4me (You can put lipstick on a donkey (or a dimrat), but it is still an ass!)
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But given susequent events his warnings were spot on.


3 posted on 08/25/2010 6:54:26 AM PDT by AU72
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To: marshmallow

‘The Encounter’ was a super book


4 posted on 08/25/2010 7:06:42 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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Fr. Malachy martin mesmerized me with his report of an exorcism on the Art Bell radio program several years ago. He sounded very sincere and knowledgeable.


5 posted on 08/25/2010 7:13:57 AM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: marshmallow

I’m ambivalent towards Martin.

I know, that’s what makes him so fascinating.


6 posted on 08/25/2010 7:20:58 AM PDT by DManA
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To: tenthirteen

that must have been something....wish it had been recorded


7 posted on 08/25/2010 7:32:52 AM PDT by cherry
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To: marshmallow
Don't know what to make of this: Malachi Martin's Double Agent Status Documented
8 posted on 08/25/2010 7:36:57 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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Malachi Martin's life was very eccentric and very obscure. One can only conclude that he went out of his way to encourage an air of mystery and conflicting images of himself.

The only consistent aspect of his reputation that he did not try to debunk was the description of himself as a towering intellectual giant.

Reading his books, this seems to be a bit of an exaggeration. He was certainly a bright man - you had to be in order to become a Jesuit in the 1940s.

The real story of Malachi Martin seems to be this: he was an academic studying Ancient Near Eastern paleography as well as being a Jesuit.

He travelled in Communist countries during the 1950s, partially to do academic work with Eastern bloc experts in paleography but also to report back to the Vatican on the state of the Church in the East and any other worthwhile information he could glean.

Because of his academic specialty he was one of the many researchers involved in the Dead Sea Scrolls project and met many prominent Israeli academics.

Sometime in 1964, his life changed radically. Maybe he had a breakdown, maybe he had it out with a superior, who knows. What we do know is that he resigned his professorship, he resigned his post in the Curia, he left the Jesuit order, he stopped writing academic articles and basically became a laicized priest. His professional career was less than 11 years long (ordained in 1954, resigned in 1965)

His exit from the clerical life coincided with the appointment of ultra-liberal Pedro Arrupe as the superior general of the Jesuits.

For the following 40 years he spent his time as an independent author, writing a slew of books of varying quality (I'm speaking of the quality of the research and the arguments, not the prose).

His legacy seems to be that he was able to make the rent on his NYC apartment for decades by selling sensationalism and stoking conspiracy theories.

9 posted on 08/25/2010 7:37:03 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: marshmallow

Find later...


10 posted on 08/25/2010 7:43:46 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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Don't know what to make of this

There isn't much there.

Basically the site is "accusing" Martin of being instrumental in the Second Vatican Council's promulgation of Nostra Aetate, specifically the language in the document that clarifies the Church's theological perspective on Judaism.

This implies that the accuser dissents from Nostra Aetate - he is basically accusing Martin of being a "double agent" for Jewish interests.

And what has he discovered? That Martin wrote a book and magazine articles with a positive spin on Judaism and that either he or an associate were paid for their writing and that they put their wages in a tax-advantaged Swiss account.

How does that make Martin a "double agent"?

This isn't espionage - this is advocacy.

I'd like to know what the author's views on Israel and Judaism are if he has a problem with Nostra Aetate.

It should also be pointed out that NA went through a number of drafts and was worked on by dozens of theologians before being proposed to hundreds of bishops.

One English language book and a couple of articles were not the deciding factor.

11 posted on 08/25/2010 7:57:28 AM PDT by wideawake
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You wrote:

“His legacy seems to be that he was able to make the rent on his NYC apartment for decades by selling sensationalism and stoking conspiracy theories.”

Boy, ain’t that the truth!


12 posted on 08/25/2010 7:58:15 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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Malachi Martin, author & former Jesuit priest
13 posted on 08/25/2010 4:04:43 PM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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Martin’s reputation was smeared with the 2002 publishing of the Robert Blair Kaiser book, “Clercial Error, A True Story,” in which Kaiser, a party-host journalist from Time magazine, was covering the 3 1/2-year long Vatican II conclave. In his book Kaiser claimed that Martin seduced his wife thereby destroying Kaiser’s marriage. The Time journalist also alleged that Martin was a notorious womanizer leaving behind a trail of broken hearts in various Roman villas.

Did the journalist offer any proof? If not, I'd give his accusation the same weight as those accusations about being on the side of the Nazis, that have been thrown around about Pope Pius XII.

14 posted on 08/25/2010 4:57:43 PM PDT by SuziQ
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I applaud your analysis in 9. 11 was good too.


15 posted on 08/26/2010 6:44:54 AM PDT by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton)
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Malachi Martin bump


16 posted on 08/29/2010 12:12:08 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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“Why not simply come out and present what you know, rather than cloaking it in “faction”?”

If you take the position theoretically that what he wrote in Windswept House was true, then you would understand that there was great danger in presenting what he knew...he would have quickly been murdered before publication.

I do know that there have been murdered conservative priests who were fighting evil and also there is a nominal code for the different characters in the book. I do not know if the book was based on reality but I recognize that it may have been in some parts.

I find it interesting that he was wrapped in alleged scandals...that certainly would have been done by some nefarious group if he was telling more truth than fiction.

If nothing else, let his writings prompt you to a deeper prayer life.


17 posted on 08/29/2010 12:52:06 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG)
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18 posted on 05/12/2014 6:18:09 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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But did he have tiger blood and Adonis DNA?


19 posted on 05/13/2014 2:58:48 AM PDT by RichInOC (...your newest purveyor of wit, laughter and the Popish creed.)
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Malachi Martin (July 23, 1921 – July 27, 1999} was made En Pectore Cardinal Bishop by Pius XII, along with a dozen other men. The immediate reason for MM’s being made so was to remove a scandalous priest in Czechoslovakia but carried on further activities behind the Iron Curtain. If I recall there were two of these twelve still living at the time of MM’s death.

Rama Coomaraswamy (d 2006) was (not) made a priest by him and others (disaster, indeed reason I slowly backed away from RC)- I have the photos-will transmit if you freemail me your email address. His cassock was last known to be under the care of Father Leonard Giardina (d Jan 7 2011) though who knows now given:
http://www.fathercekada.com/2011/05/30/tragedy-and-treason-at-christ-the-king-abbey/

Coomaraswamy held MM became a sedevacantist with JP2’s rejection of Windswept House. Martin had personally handed Wojtlya a copy, gave him time with it and personally heard from him (MM had a regular phone/visit relation w/ JP2) such MM, upon returning from Rome, told RC JP2 was “a heretic”.

It was made very clear to me without actual name being used that Bp. Robert McKenna, famous at least for videos of exorcisms, worked with MM in tandem on some. The very aged Bp. McKenna may become prominent soon enough as Jerry Bruckheimer is said to be presently making a movie based on ex NYC police detective Ralph Sarchie’s book on Satanism in the NYC area entitled “Beware the Night”. Bp. McKenna wrote the forward to the book, which has a chapter or two on google books. Perhaps Bp. McKenna will attest to MM’s status as Cardinal-Bishop.

The film now entitled “Deliver Us from Evil” is set for a July 2, 2014 release (per wiki) and there is a trailer.
RC also said MM had subconditionally (re)consecrated some 100 priests, one actually while crossing Red Square.

I was on an active enough yahoo group on MM early-mid 00’s and it was claimed by one who seemed to be personally in contact with MM that he dropped sedevacantism in the very near end. I got to know for the time through the site and slightly personally William H. Kennedy of Everette, MA who died at 49 in Sept 2012, who was very friendly with MM in the mid 1990’s. He claimed MM designated him to write his biography. I reject much of what WHK held on Catholic Church and paranormal matters you can look up yourself, droves of especially the latter on the net.

I am basically sympathetic to MM but certainly see him as enigmatic, but more certainly see him as extremely important. I was also told but haven’t confirmed that Look Magazine held him one of 100 most important people of the 20th century. If they didn’t, he should be on such a list.


20 posted on 05/13/2014 7:51:44 PM PDT by BonRad (The world is full of educated derelicts-Calvin Coolidge)
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